Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

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Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Gearoidmuar » 30 Nov 2012, 6:08pm

Somebody told me recently that turning a bike upside down when you got a puncture, was social death for a cyclist. Though this is not my wont, I have done it occasionally. Today I had to.
I got a puncture on an MTB I use as a touring bike, took off the wheel and fixed it. This bike has hydraulic brakes, which when you are trying to get the wheel back on, are lowdraulic brakes as you can't see exactly what's what.
To hell with that, took off handlebar bag, upside down, ten seconds, wheel fitted.

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby philg » 30 Nov 2012, 6:14pm

Gearoidmuar wrote:was social death for a cyclist.

Does it get any worse? :mrgreen:

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby tonythompson » 30 Nov 2012, 6:24pm

Sorry to be stupid but how do you remove a wheel to fix a flat if not by turning the bike upside down?

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby cycleruk » 30 Nov 2012, 6:25pm

The only reason NOT to upside the bike is the saddle and bars could get dirty/wet.
I have no compunction in turning a bike over if it's better to do a job on it.
If doing a puncture when out I will usually lie the bike on it's side with derailleur up.
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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby ferrit worrier » 30 Nov 2012, 7:23pm

I've nearly allways turned my bike upside down, quickest, easiest, and safest. the front wheel you can rest on the fork ends although I dont do that unless they go on somthing soft like my gloves. what do you do with the rear mech ?

At home I have a length of 3x2 covered in old carpet that sits under the handelbars and keeps them off the floor (the 3x2 is about 3' long and helps to stop the bars from twisting round) the sadle sits on an old towel.

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Ray » 30 Nov 2012, 7:29pm

I learned not to do this way back when brake cables sprouted from the levers, and were liable to get bent/damaged when the bike stood upside down. Also, gravelly or wet surfaces were unkind to Brooks saddles. Nowadays, with hidden cables and plastic saddles there is less danger of damage, but I still feel uneasy about inverting the bike in public. Must admit, though, that I'll sometimes use this method in the privacy of my own garage or garden when I want to fettle my bike's nether regions.
There, I've said it! Maybe I'm just too old to care these days?

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby meic » 30 Nov 2012, 7:34pm

Who exactly decided this was social death for a cyclist?

Was it the Daily Mail by any chance?
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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Mark1978 » 30 Nov 2012, 7:50pm

Never heard of this one before!

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Mick F » 30 Nov 2012, 7:54pm

If I were to turn my bike upside down, it would fall over!

Saddle is higher than bars, and bars are narrow. The upside-down bike would sit on the saddle nose and the top of the quill stem. ie it would fall over as there is no stable "frame" or triangular support.

Therefore, if I want to remove a wheel:
Front: drop out the wheel and stand the bike on the forks.
Rear: Lie the bike down on the LH side, hook the chain on the seat-stay chain hook*, slide out the rear wheel.

*Wot?
Don't you have a seat-stay chain hook? :D
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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby drossall » 30 Nov 2012, 10:14pm

I've always felt that the clue was in the name "drop-outs".

If you do, it doesn't.

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby mrjemm » 30 Nov 2012, 11:08pm

I use a brooks. Soddit, if I need to fix a flat or whatever, why not invert? Is this like eating peas with a knife? You know what? I lick my plate too.

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Mike Sales » 30 Nov 2012, 11:15pm

This is a rule that Velominati has missed. To me its like leaving your fenders dangling when underway.

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby hatless » 30 Nov 2012, 11:25pm

Mike Sales wrote:This is a rule that Velominati has missed. To me its like leaving your fenders dangling when underway.

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

It's rule 49: Keep the rubber side down.

It includes the line"The only reason a bicycle should ever be in an upside down position is during mid-rotation while crashing."

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby Mike Sales » 30 Nov 2012, 11:28pm

hatless wrote:
Mike Sales wrote:This is a rule that Velominati has missed. To me its like leaving your fenders dangling when underway.

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/

It's rule 49: Keep the rubber side down.

It includes the line"The only reason a bicycle should ever be in an upside down position is during mid-rotation while crashing."


I should have known, and I should have checked.

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Re: Turning bike upside down. Social death for a cyclist..

Postby drossall » 30 Nov 2012, 11:39pm

I've watched a number of people tugging at a wheel on an inverted bike, trying to get it free. With the bike the proper way up, you just hit the wheel with the palm of your hand, and it drops out of the drop outs (not pull-outs, you notice).

When I see the pros waiting for the service car with inverted bikes, I'll do the same (not that I get a service car, of course).