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Re: Tevez

Postby jezer » 4 Apr 2013, 5:12pm

I've no idea what it means either. The only observation I can make is that footballers always seem to be treated as though they are above the law :?
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Re: Tevez

Postby tatanab » 4 Apr 2013, 5:14pm

reohn2 wrote:I Googled Rgland and got a load of estate agents.I've still not a clue what it is,I must have lead a sheltered life :? Educate me.

I had to look up Medoza and found it is in Argentina. Now I suppose Rgland sort of makes sense, but not as much as plain English.

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Re: Tevez

Postby al_yrpal » 4 Apr 2013, 5:28pm

tatanab wrote:
reohn2 wrote:I Googled Rgland and got a load of estate agents.I'veR still not a clue what it is,I must have lead a sheltered life :? Educate me.

I had to look up Medoza and found it is in Argentina. Now I suppose Rgland sort of makes sense, but not as much as plain English.

Rgland = Argieland = Argentina That place that attacked the Falklands and is now blockading it by sea and air, banning any ships that go there and harrasing any British pensioner that sets foot in Buenos Aires. Violently anti British after the recent Falklands referendum in which the Islanders voted 1513 to 3 to remain British. If you are an Rg footballer you can do anything you like and that's what he does, like when he disappeared for a long time.

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Re: Tevez

Postby jezer » 4 Apr 2013, 5:37pm

Well, I don't want to be any part of football. I must be the only person in the UK who has never been to a match :oops:
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Re: Tevez

Postby jan19 » 4 Apr 2013, 5:47pm

When I first read the story, my first reaction was the same I suspect as many people's on here - namely that he had been let off very lightly.

Having thought a bit about it though, I think this could actually be quite a good sentence. No fine would be sufficient to actually hurt him as he's allegedly on £20,000 a week. Even if he's on half that, you can't imagine any court enforcing a fine that could in any way serve as a deterrent. Carting off his gas-guzzler to be scrapped would be pointless too - no doubt he has others, and could anyway go straight out and buy a new one. A prison sentence probably wouldn't be for very long and he'd be out in next to no time anyway.

However, Carlos Tevez isn't happy in Manchester, and has tried to leave on a couple of occasions before being forced to stay for contractual reasons. He is reported to be in talks with an Argentine club, as well as a couple in Europe with a view to a move in the summer. But his Community Service can't be done outside the UK, which means he can't move until he's done it and 250 hours is a fair chunk of time. If he can't get it done by the summer, he's stuck in Manchester until at least the January transfer window.

I don't buy the lack of English as an excuse - Manchester City no doubt employ plenty of people who could have helped - but more a disregard for the laws of another country as just not applying to him. Whether others tempted to drive without insurance, or while banned would consider a 250 hour Community Service order a sufficient deterrent is another point.

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Re: Tevez

Postby 661-Pete » 4 Apr 2013, 5:51pm

jezer wrote:Well, I don't want to be any part of football. I must be the only person in the UK who has never been to a match :oops:

Nope. :wink:
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Re: Tevez

Postby reohn2 » 4 Apr 2013, 6:22pm

al_yrpal wrote:Rgland = Argieland = Argentina That place that attacked the Falklands and is now blockading it by sea and air, banning any ships that go there and harrasing any British pensioner that sets foot in Buenos Aires. Violently anti British after the recent Falklands referendum in which the Islanders voted 1513 to 3 to remain British.

Al


thanks for that Al,it all makes sense now :)

If you are an Rg footballer you can do anything you like and that's what he does, like when he disappeared for a long time.

You don't need to be an Rg :wink: football star to do that,Eng's do it too :)
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Re: Tevez

Postby jezer » 4 Apr 2013, 6:45pm

I just don't get it. Is football so supreme in the UK that overpriced players can do what they like without any comeback :?:
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Re: Tevez

Postby eileithyia » 4 Apr 2013, 9:54pm

jezer wrote:I just don't get it. Is football so supreme in the UK that overpriced players can do what they like without any comeback :?:


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Re: Tevez

Postby thirdcrank » 5 Apr 2013, 9:18am

jezer wrote:I just don't get it. Is football so supreme in the UK that overpriced players can do what they like without any comeback :?:


I thought the point here is that they did not get away with it. I think if I were either of the players whose names have come up in this thread, I'd be wanting to know why I ended up being convicted, and convicted in a blaze of publicity which seems to have been whipped up in part at least by a solicitor's alleged reputation to be able to work magic. I suppose it only goes to show how inexperienced some of these celebs are when they get the hassle and somebody else basks in their reflected glory, because he doesn't seem to me to have worked much in these cases.

Money won't buy publicity like this:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... er-1742533
“I don’t think I seek publicity.”


....and some have publicity thrust upon them. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tevez

Postby rand » 5 Apr 2013, 10:01am

jan19 wrote:When I first read the story, my first reaction was the same I suspect as many people's on here - namely that he had been let off very lightly.

Having thought a bit about it though, I think this could actually be quite a good sentence. No fine would be sufficient to actually hurt him as he's allegedly on £20,000 a week. Even if he's on half that, you can't imagine any court enforcing a fine that could in any way serve as a deterrent. Carting off his gas-guzzler to be scrapped would be pointless too - no doubt he has others, and could anyway go straight out and buy a new one. A prison sentence probably wouldn't be for very long and he'd be out in next to no time anyway.

However, Carlos Tevez isn't happy in Manchester, and has tried to leave on a couple of occasions before being forced to stay for contractual reasons. He is reported to be in talks with an Argentine club, as well as a couple in Europe with a view to a move in the summer. But his Community Service can't be done outside the UK, which means he can't move until he's done it and 250 hours is a fair chunk of time. If he can't get it done by the summer, he's stuck in Manchester until at least the January transfer window.

I don't buy the lack of English as an excuse - Manchester City no doubt employ plenty of people who could have helped - but more a disregard for the laws of another country as just not applying to him. Whether others tempted to drive without insurance, or while banned would consider a 250 hour Community Service order a sufficient deterrent is another point.

Jan


Isn't he (Tevez) on £200,000. per week, not £20,000?

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Re: Tevez

Postby jan19 » 5 Apr 2013, 1:09pm

Isn't he (Tevez) on £200,000. per week, not £20,000?
Rand.rand

yes, sorry, missed a zero out. Mind you, I'd be happy on £20,000 a week!

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Re: Tevez

Postby karlt » 5 Apr 2013, 2:11pm

661-Pete wrote:
jezer wrote:Well, I don't want to be any part of football. I must be the only person in the UK who has never been to a match :oops:

Nope. :wink:


Me neither.

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Re: Tevez

Postby reohn2 » 5 Apr 2013, 3:11pm

karlt wrote:
661-Pete wrote:
jezer wrote:Well, I don't want to be any part of football. I must be the only person in the UK who has never been to a match :oops:

Nope. :wink:


Me neither.

TBH I think the professional game has albut destroyed the game of football.I for one cannot watch the pro game.
If the same kind a of discipline was shown on the pro football field as is shown on the pro Rugby field(either code) football would be a far better game,as it is the tail(players) is firmly wagging the dog(referee) IMHO.

BTW I think Jan19 may have a point in her first post.
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Re: Tevez

Postby Ant » 5 Apr 2013, 3:29pm

When you look at UK sentencing guidelines for driving without insurance, it seems that Tevez's sentence actually is rather harsh.

His original ban was in itself a relatively harsh punishment for I believe two speeding offences which for whatever reasons he ignored after receiving a summons.

He has not caused any injury, nor was his manner of driving in this latest incident a cause for concern. Sentencing guidelines for driving without insurance are a maximum £5000 fine (irrelevant in this instance) and the possibility of a driving ban.

All this discussion about "Argies" is non-sensical. Unless you know Tevez then any speculation as to his reasoning is just that. Speculation. Just because Maradona appears to be something of a rogue and the current Argentinian PM seems somewhat anti-UK, it has no bearing on an individuals behaviour. I certainly would not wish to be judged by David Camerons actions. Nor by many English footballers (John Terry, anyone?!)

Finally, getting a police escort in Mendoza seems to me to be a very positive thing and shows Argentina in a good light. There are parts of Britain that I would not cycle in and should I inadvertently, as a visitor to a country, stray into a dodgy area I would be quite grateful of assistance! Let's also not forget that it isn't British taxpayers that are funding the Argentinian police...