Got the police coming out...

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dalifnei
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Got the police coming out...

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Had a very close shave yesterday, my closest in almost a year of commuting daily.

Was passing another cyclist at about 25mph, and she wasn't far in to the left possibly due to the road surface so I moved to her right hand side... I was to the left edge of the right lane (2 lanes). There was traffic well behind me when I moved over, but a car caught up very fast. Then I heard 3 short beeps and then a VERY close pass and pull in across my front wheel. The very closest pass since I started cycling, gave me a bit of a fright. We both stopped beside each other at the lights, and the occupants (an older couple) would down their window because I shook my head at them and waved my arm (like an idiot), and started bawling at me... "YOU WERE OVERTAKING HER! YOU WERE IN THE RIGHT LANE!" I was trying to say I'm allowed to be in the right lane but they kept shouting.

So I called the police. ... and they are coming out to take a statement!
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Sorry to hear that you've been the victim of what sound like eejits.
Did you get any witness details (eg the cyclist you were over taking) or cam footage - otherwise I think it might just be a case of your word against theirs so you'll have to rely on them saying something stoopid to the police should they talk to the old couple.
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I despair of the British motoring public. Too often, they simply don't know the rules of the road or the highway code. Only last week, a bloke tried to knock me off because he claimed I was too far out. Last Sunday, on a deserted road, with 2 carraigeways, an idiot drives past and shouts "Single File!".
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whilst none of the above examples are of errant cycling - the rules of the road are not even relevant. since when did it become the motorist's duty/right to admonish errant cyclists with 1500kg weapons? i suspect that if i tried it against a shopkeeper who refused to honour a warranty, or an employer who refused their part timers holiday pay, i'd be in very deep water.
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Best of luck, but I doubt you'll get anywhere - there wasn't any accident and they won't pursue a Careless Driving ticket on your say-so. Was there a traffic island or other obstacle on your right, restricting your close-passer's ability to move further to the right? Or oncoming vehicles?
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no, could have passed plenty space... Or waited! Just teaching me a lesson
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Must have been very narrow lanes if you needed to go into lane 2 to pass another cyclist?

Dual carriageway or single marked out with double lanes? A google street view image would help us see where you where.
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Sounds like a 'revenge' or 'punishment' pass (or whatever the term is) - very unpleasant and definitely out of order. The next worst thing before actual road rage. But I still expect - based on outcomes of other cases described on this forum - that the police won't follow it through. A shame, but it happens!

Taking primary position, in whichever lane you happen to be in (in your case the Rh lane), would at least present the following motorist with no ambiguity: i.e. you 'have' the lane. He would have had to move right over to the opposite carriageway to overtake - if he must overtake...
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Mark,
Possibly he was following the highway code and giving the cyclist as much room as he would give a car, who knows she could have had to swerve to avoid a pothole and put them both under the wheels of the car racing towards the red traffic lights.
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The fact you've got the police to take any interest/action at all is worth something. Most of the time when I have reported bad driving they claim lack of resources to pursue the matter. A couple of times they have spoken to the driver - it all seems to depend on which officer you get. I got one particular officer in the Hampshire road policing unit who pretty much said that unless I got knocked off and seriously injured he wasn't interested and this was when i was reporting a driving for clipping my handlebar mirror while overtaking in what I percieved to be a deliberately intimidating manner.
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I had a close pass, twice, just the other night with a Co-Op lorry.

On one pass, on a single-lane trunk road, the driver cut in early, and I took it to be just an error on his part. Due to traffic lights ahead being at red, I then passed him, and other traffic, half a mile later.

From those lights, the road turns into a dual carriageway. Half a mile along there on the green light, he buzzed me at just beyond elbow distance!

I've called it in, and am awaiting a response.

I hate the attitude of crap drivers that it's dangerous to cycle, so they'll just prove it by ensuring that it really is dangerous.

I'll let you know the outcome.
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I wish you the best of luck. I often post on my local newspaper's forum, and while many comments are pro cycling, some display a total arrogance to us. The usual arguments come up about us not paying for the roads, so we shouldn't be there, etc... :shock:
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Mark1978 wrote:Must have been very narrow lanes if you needed to go into lane 2 to pass another cyclist?
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I hope you don't routinely skim past other cyclists or pedestrians when there's clear space to the right ?

Just asking because I've had several incidents on the Bristol railway path where following cyclists decided I was being too generous and should have left room for their double overtake.
I tend to assume they ordinarily drive Audis.
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gentlegreen wrote:I hope you don't routinely skim past other cyclists or pedestrians when there's clear space to the right ?


Me, overtake other cyclists, haha, good one ;)
Secondly, a don't find myself cycling on dual carriageways often (ever).
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gentlegreen wrote:
Mark1978 wrote:Must have been very narrow lanes if you needed to go into lane 2 to pass another cyclist?
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I hope you don't routinely skim past other cyclists or pedestrians when there's clear space to the right ?

Just asking because I've had several incidents on the Bristol railway path where following cyclists decided I was being too generous and should have left room for their double overtake.
I tend to assume they ordinarily drive Audis.

Ah, Audis. The vehicle of choice for bad drivers these days. They seem to have taken over from BMWs and MBs
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