Lycra Lout Surprise

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Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby Shootist » 26 Jun 2013, 2:52pm

So, there I was on my motorbike, sitting at the lights near the magistrate's court in Burton on Trent today waiting for the lights to change to green. They'd been red for a while. All of a sudden a British Standard Lycra Lout shot through the lights from behind me, to the nearside (I was in the left lane) and continued upon his merry way. Well, I just thought "typical" while wishing him a double puncture on a wet night sometime soon. Up till this point I was about to dismiss it from my mind when I saw him turn left into the police station private car park.

I was peeved that he might be a police officer, so I followed him to the gate, which was slow to open, and I said "I hope you're not a police officer." He replied "Why?" I said "Because you've just deliberately ridden through a red light." To my surprise, he replied "It's a bike, it doesn't apply." I said "It does, the Road Traffic Act applies to cyclists." to my further surprise he simply said "It doesn't matter." He then rode off into the compound.

Now, it was about half an hour before the normal 2pm start of an afternoon shift, he had the build of a police officer, and was in his 40s with greying hair. So, unlikely to be a probationer. OK, he could have been civilian staff, perhaps a call handler, or a cleaner. I have my opinion as to what he was, but I doubt the forum net nanny would allow me to say. :evil:
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby NUKe » 26 Jun 2013, 3:08pm

My FIL who was an inspector,now retired, always says pretty much the same thing, red lights don't apply to bikes. He never rode through without looking but he really doesn't like to stop. As I am quicker than him I usually stop and catch him up later. I've got to admit though I do occasionally ignore the lights myself. If its all clear at quite times. It can be safer than sat wating for somebody to come and rear end you.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby fossala » 26 Jun 2013, 3:11pm

I ride with a group sometimes, they always jump red lights (I don't). One of the lads is a very high up police officer.

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby Si » 26 Jun 2013, 3:25pm

Shootist wrote: I have my opinion as to what he was, but I doubt the forum net nanny would allow me to say. :evil:


funny isn't it...how some people insist that others follow the rules, but when they are made to follow rules they get peeved :wink:

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby Shootist » 26 Jun 2013, 3:38pm

To be blunt, I'm more bothered about him being willing to lie to a member of the public than I am him riding through a red light.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby Phil Fouracre » 26 Jun 2013, 4:21pm

Why the surprise? Think about Andrew Mitchell and now the Stephen Lawrence fiasco! I'm afraid they have gone through the floor in my estimation now.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby southamptonadi » 26 Jun 2013, 8:28pm

I watched a PCSO approach a set of red lights and then just jump onto a pavement to go round the corner, i tooted and shook my head at him. He did not look bothered that i spotted him. I cant wait to catch one with my camera on.

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby rjb » 26 Jun 2013, 9:16pm

C'mon guys - it shows that they only human like a lot of us.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby chris_suffolk » 26 Jun 2013, 10:54pm

Phil Fouracre wrote:Why the surprise? Think about Andrew Mitchell and now the Stephen Lawrence fiasco! I'm afraid they have gone through the floor in my estimation now.


In any dealings I have ever had with the police, the floor is the high point to which they aspire, not the depths to which thay have now sunk...........

.........sorry, but not a high opinion of them I'm afraid

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby jezer » 26 Jun 2013, 11:01pm

rjb wrote:C'mon guys - it shows that they only human like a lot of us.
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:

If you mean being human is to break the law I'm afraid I don't get it. I accept I don't cycle in large towns or cities, but I never ride on the pavement or jump red lights, and I mean NEVER. Surely we must show an example to other road users that we are responsible citizens. When cycling I always use hand signals and obey the rules, and when driving I pass cyclists wide and slow after indicating my intention to overtake. I feel this sets an example to drivers behind, and in a small way will help to educate them. I have posted separately about an example of bad driving on our recent club run, but that was an exception and my experience is that the majority of drivers behave very well these days. Perhaps this is down to more of them being cyclists now than in the past.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby mcslaski » 26 Jun 2013, 11:39pm

jezer wrote:
rjb wrote:C'mon guys - it shows that they only human like a lot of us.
:evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:

If you mean being human is to break the law I'm afraid I don't get it. I accept I don't cycle in large towns or cities, but I never ride on the pavement or jump red lights, and I mean NEVER. Surely we must show an example to other road users that we are responsible citizens. When cycling I always use hand signals and obey the rules, and when driving I pass cyclists wide and slow after indicating my intention to overtake. I feel this sets an example to drivers behind, and in a small way will help to educate them. I have posted separately about an example of bad driving on our recent club run, but that was an exception and my experience is that the majority of drivers behave very well these days. Perhaps this is down to more of them being cyclists now than in the past.


I agree. The attitude displayed by a minority of cyclists who feel that the law, or even simple courtesy doesn't apply to them makes it rough for the rest of us. I have seen a lot of unprovoked verbal from drivers in recent years, and to be honest it no longer surprises me. Reading the above gives me no doubts as to where a lot of it comes from.

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby danfoto » 27 Jun 2013, 6:59am

jezer wrote: Surely we must show an example to other road users that we are responsible citizens.


Indeed - especially when the Old Bill doesn't :lol:
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby reohn2 » 27 Jun 2013, 9:49am

chris_suffolk wrote:
Phil Fouracre wrote:Why the surprise? Think about Andrew Mitchell and now the Stephen Lawrence fiasco! I'm afraid they have gone through the floor in my estimation now.


In any dealings I have ever had with the police, the floor is the high point to which they aspire, not the depths to which thay have now sunk...........

.........sorry, but not a high opinion of them I'm afraid

+1 based on my experiences with them in the past and recently at my granddaughter's inquest,where their slapdash and downright unprofessionalism not mention unlawful handling of some of the investigation into the incident had to be seen and heard to be believed.
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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby rand » 27 Jun 2013, 10:48am

chris_suffolk wrote:
Phil Fouracre wrote:Why the surprise? Think about Andrew Mitchell and now the Stephen Lawrence fiasco! I'm afraid they have gone through the floor in my estimation now.


In any dealings I have ever had with the police, the floor is the high point to which they aspire, not the depths to which thay have now sunk...........

.........sorry, but not a high opinion of them I'm afraid


Well said, that man!

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Re: Lycra Lout Surprise

Postby meic » 27 Jun 2013, 10:52am

I dont agree.

The MET give other Police Forces a bad name.

My local Police are not bad*, though it is difficult to get much action on less serious issues.

* I am not saying that because I know one of them is (or was) on this forum. :mrgreen:
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