Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Well, its taken them over 50 years to catch me, but I finally got pulled over by the Police this morning.
I was almost at the end of a bus lane which runs for about half a mile. Just before the end (on the left) is a local college, and I could see a Police van parked outside it with several officers milling around. Somewhat to my surprise, one stepped into the road ahead of me and gestured for me to pull over. He explained that due to the number of recent fatalities involving cyclists (one in Croydon, which isn't very far away) they were spending the week randomly pulling up both cyclists and HGV drivers and talking to them about cyclists' safety on the road. I'd been picked simply because I was the first cyclist they'd seen (which I find a bit hard to believe but there you go, that's what he said. Maybe they'd only been there a couple of minutes).
Anyway, he looked at me and admitted as far as he could see I was as visible as I could be - high-viz jacket, reflective ankle bands, and bright lights both front and rear. Even my bike is a pale colour. I assured him I'm very well aware of the danger of riding up the left of traffic and always wait behind an HGV. He told me they would be running an awareness day on 6th December to which HGV drivers and cyclists were invited, hoping to give both an understanding of what the others see and how they behave. If I'm free, I think I may well go along - its not far from me.
Interestingly, after I'd ridden on, I was overtaken by three more cyclists. All were in black, none had any high-viz and although all had rear lights (they were in front of me before I noticed their front ones) all were a bit feeble. It wasn't actually dark, but its a pretty gloomy morning here.
Jan
I was almost at the end of a bus lane which runs for about half a mile. Just before the end (on the left) is a local college, and I could see a Police van parked outside it with several officers milling around. Somewhat to my surprise, one stepped into the road ahead of me and gestured for me to pull over. He explained that due to the number of recent fatalities involving cyclists (one in Croydon, which isn't very far away) they were spending the week randomly pulling up both cyclists and HGV drivers and talking to them about cyclists' safety on the road. I'd been picked simply because I was the first cyclist they'd seen (which I find a bit hard to believe but there you go, that's what he said. Maybe they'd only been there a couple of minutes).
Anyway, he looked at me and admitted as far as he could see I was as visible as I could be - high-viz jacket, reflective ankle bands, and bright lights both front and rear. Even my bike is a pale colour. I assured him I'm very well aware of the danger of riding up the left of traffic and always wait behind an HGV. He told me they would be running an awareness day on 6th December to which HGV drivers and cyclists were invited, hoping to give both an understanding of what the others see and how they behave. If I'm free, I think I may well go along - its not far from me.
Interestingly, after I'd ridden on, I was overtaken by three more cyclists. All were in black, none had any high-viz and although all had rear lights (they were in front of me before I noticed their front ones) all were a bit feeble. It wasn't actually dark, but its a pretty gloomy morning here.
Jan
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Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
It seems you are not the only one viewtopic.php?f=41&t=81622
The coppers probably didn't notice these guys
jan19 wrote:Interestingly, after I'd ridden on, I was overtaken by three more cyclists. All were in black, none had any high-viz and although all had rear lights (they were in front of me before I noticed their front ones) all were a bit feeble. It wasn't actually dark, but its a pretty gloomy morning here.
The coppers probably didn't notice these guys
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
I have noticed recently that a lot of cyclists winter gear seems to consist of entirely black.
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Hi,
Like everone, the police need some novelty in their job, it'le pass................
The police spend thousands if not more on public awareness schemes, one day a year, then spend the rest of the year ignoring the crimes that we see every day
They could do far worse than stand on a street corner and watch all the drivers on their mobiles.
Is it me or do all police cars spend all their time driving to somewhere else...................
Like everone, the police need some novelty in their job, it'le pass................
The police spend thousands if not more on public awareness schemes, one day a year, then spend the rest of the year ignoring the crimes that we see every day
They could do far worse than stand on a street corner and watch all the drivers on their mobiles.
Is it me or do all police cars spend all their time driving to somewhere else...................
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Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Why is so much cycling clothing black or dark grey?
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Probably for the same reason the cars are.
People like the colours.
People like the colours.
Yma o Hyd
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Aldi have apparently picked up on the trend - black/grey jackets from Thursday this week -
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... ng-jacket/
They do have reflective bits, but not much help in daytime.
Ray
https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/t ... ng-jacket/
They do have reflective bits, but not much help in daytime.
Ray
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Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
jan19 wrote:he looked at me and admitted as far as he could see I was as visible as I could be - high-viz jacket, reflective ankle bands, and bright lights both front and rear
Lurid clothing is generally excellent at preventing cycling accidents because it discourages so many people from cycling altogether. I spoke to a Frenchman over here who said he didn't want to ride in this country because of the pressure to wear unusual attire, unlike in France; he drives a car here instead.
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
There is no shortage of cyclists in France wearing "the gear", just like here in the UK they are different types of cyclists, leisure and utility. Both exist in both countries (often the same people in different clothes). Though the "battlefields of London" may be dominated by leisure-styled commuters, happily I am hundreds of miles away from that life, literally as well as metaphorically.
Yma o Hyd
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Urticaria wrote:Lurid clothing is generally excellent at preventing cycling accidents because it discourages so many people from cycling altogether. I spoke to a Frenchman over here who said he didn't want to ride in this country because of the pressure to wear unusual attire, unlike in France; he drives a car here instead.
Someone is *that* worried about their appearance that they won't cycle and drive instead? Nah, don't buy it.
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Mark1978 wrote:Urticaria wrote:Lurid clothing is generally excellent at preventing cycling accidents because it discourages so many people from cycling altogether. I spoke to a Frenchman over here who said he didn't want to ride in this country because of the pressure to wear unusual attire, unlike in France; he drives a car here instead.
Someone is *that* worried about their appearance that they won't cycle and drive instead? Nah, don't buy it.
I don't know, there's no shortage of people who wouldn't be seen dead in lycra or a hi viz vest. Also, if it means buying special clothes just for cycling, I can imagine that putting some commuter and leisure cyclists off
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Adam S wrote:I don't know, there's no shortage of people who wouldn't be seen dead in lycra or a hi viz vest. Also, if it means buying special clothes just for cycling, I can imagine that putting some commuter and leisure cyclists off
I must concede, I had my wife bring a change of clothes with her for me when I met her for Sunday lunch yesterday. As I figured queuing for the carvery wearing a hi-vis yellow shirt would attract comment.
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Didn't one of the fairly recent anti-cyclist newspaper articles posted on here claim that cyclists were to blame for wearing silly bright clothes which distracted motorists?
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Adam S wrote:Didn't one of the fairly recent anti-cyclist newspaper articles posted on here claim that cyclists were to blame for wearing silly bright clothes which distracted motorists?
And another (no doubt) said cyclists were to blame for not wearing hi-vis clothes.
Re: Stopped by the Police! (doing cycle checks...)
Mark1978 wrote:Adam S wrote:Didn't one of the fairly recent anti-cyclist newspaper articles posted on here claim that cyclists were to blame for wearing silly bright clothes which distracted motorists?
And another (no doubt) said cyclists were to blame for not wearing hi-vis clothes.
Why another - probably the same article...
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