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feefee8
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pete75 wrote:
ukdodger wrote:Take heart. In the US you'd most likely have been shot. In Zimbabewe you'd be arrested and tortured and in Jockland you'd have your feet nailed to the floor while they played Jimmy shand records.


No not that.... :shock:
Definition of a gentleman - someone who can play the accordion but doesn't.


I hope you don't start saying bad things about bagpipes next..... :O
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feefee8 wrote:
pete75 wrote:
ukdodger wrote:Take heart. In the US you'd most likely have been shot. In Zimbabewe you'd be arrested and tortured and in Jockland you'd have your feet nailed to the floor while they played Jimmy shand records.


No not that.... :shock:
Definition of a gentleman - someone who can play the accordion but doesn't.


I hope you don't start saying bad things about bagpipes next..... :O


Don't mind the pipes at all and have been to some v. good Battlefield Band gigs.....
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Before anybody drags Bill Millin into this but rather going back to the OP, I wondered if this had been a one-off or the tip of the iceberg. :?
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feefee8 wrote:
pete75 wrote:
ukdodger wrote:Take heart. In the US you'd most likely have been shot. In Zimbabewe you'd be arrested and tortured and in Jockland you'd have your feet nailed to the floor while they played Jimmy shand records.


No not that.... :shock:
Definition of a gentleman - someone who can play the accordion but doesn't.


I hope you don't start saying bad things about bagpipes next..... :O


I cant help thinking of the joke about the octopus with tartan knickers.
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meic wrote:In the real world, I always think it is best to try and keep the Police "on our side" than to alienate them.

An informal complaint, yes, but was it really actual bodily harm?


Keep them on our side yes, but not let dangerous behaviour like that go unreported. She was far more likely to have caused an accident doing that than he was for not wearing high vis or helmet.

Also it is poor practice for them to be trying to enforce things which are not the law. It isn't like they have the best image at the moment and things like this do not help. Lots of police officers are very good at their job and should not have officers like this one undermining their relationship with the public.
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ukdodger wrote:
feefee8 wrote:
pete75 wrote:No not that.... :shock:
Definition of a gentleman - someone who can play the accordion but doesn't.


I hope you don't start saying bad things about bagpipes next..... :O


I cant help thinking of the joke about the octopus with tartan knickers.


I don't know that one.....
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It concerns rape by an octopus.
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feefee8 wrote:
ukdodger wrote:I cant help thinking of the joke about the octopus with tartan knickers.


I don't know that one.....

http://www.electricscotland.com/humour/h4.htm
(except that in the version I heard, the words used in the punchline were - ahem - somewhat different. :shock: )
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661-Pete wrote:
feefee8 wrote:
ukdodger wrote:I cant help thinking of the joke about the octopus with tartan knickers.


I don't know that one.....

http://www.electricscotland.com/humour/h4.htm
(except that in the version I heard, the words used in the punchline were - ahem - somewhat different. :shock: )


Oooook. I'll start being more careful with my pipes near octopii!
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Slow progress on this. Its been 2 weeks of the police trying to water the allegations down to a Local Resolution. If you're ever offered Local Resolution I would advise to consider, and research this in great depth before accepting. (I've chosen to reject this). I've had to consult a legal firm. Not much I can add to this case without prejudicing proceedings.

If the moderators feel it appropriate to remove this subject on that basis , I will entirely understand.
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Hi,
fluffybunnyuk wrote:Slow progress on this. Its been 2 weeks of the police trying to water the allegations down to a Local Resolution. If you're ever offered Local Resolution I would advise to consider, and research this in great depth before accepting. (I've chosen to reject this). I've had to consult a legal firm. Not much I can add to this case without prejudicing proceedings.

If the moderators feel it appropriate to remove this subject on that basis , I will entirely understand.


Good On Yah fluffybunnyuk
Stick to your guns, Keep calm, and do take advise from professionals.

I have 1ST hand experience of police intimidation.
A police Inspector told me "you are made to feel like a criminal" thats right and I was the inocent party :twisted:

Dont Go for local resolution :!: Thats keeping it in house.....mates...........
"Local Resolution
If the complaint is relatively minor and even if it were substantiated it is unlikely an officer would be formally disciplined the complaint can be locally resolved (LR)."

Full investigation means someone independant will be appointed :?: .....got to be better.
http://iaingould.co.uk/2012/01/09/polic ... esolution/
Extract -
"In my experience, police forces seem to do their utmost to press for a complaint to be dealt with by Local Resolution. This is often without having a full understanding of the nature of the complaint and irrespective of the serious nature of the complaint that has been lodged.

I believe the police do this to brush (otherwise serious and valid) complaints under the carpet. By doing so they improve their complaint statistics, minimise fall-out within the force, and reduce the likelihood of formal complaints and police compensation claims."
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Minor update: Got the CCTV footage back. Apparently the police officer was standing in the cameras blind spot...theres a surprise!!!
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Still gives evidence of your speed and road position on approach?
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I've still no idea of what outcome would satisfy you. :?

I've not been back through the thread but IIRC at quite an early stage you said that you thought court proceedings wouldn't be appropriate. (My wording.) That only leaves some form of formal police disciplinary action - which is quasi-judicial in the procedures - or informal resolution of your complaint.
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Hi,
fluffybunnyuk wrote:Minor update: Got the CCTV footage back. Apparently the police officer was standing in the cameras blind spot...theres a surprise!!!

Even if you were going to go for local resoulution, the officer would have to give some sort of account of your allegations.
You might not like the reply..................
Even if the camera showed what you alledged, do you think that it would ever be aired..............

Hindsight is like 20/2 vision its does'nt exist, even if it does or even when you think its real, just try convincing those who matter.
You might just have to live with your memory of the event like the rest of us.
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