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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby Psamathe » 24 Sep 2014, 10:08pm

Or, get a "myWaitrose" card (free) and then get a free cup of decent coffee from their cafe (or their real coffee machines they are now putting around their stores - so you can avoid queues at the cafes).

BUT, if you like cakes, then getting a free coffee can end-up quite expensive with cakes (which are not free!).

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby reohn2 » 24 Sep 2014, 10:17pm

honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.

And is more often than not stewed from being left in the jug.
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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby honesty » 24 Sep 2014, 10:49pm

reohn2 wrote:
honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.

And is more often than not stewed from being left in the jug.


Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out ;)

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby karlt » 25 Sep 2014, 9:34am

reohn2 wrote:You won't get a decent cup of coffee wherever for less than £1.80 it's that simple.
If you wish to drink instant that's your business,personally I'd rather not.


I don't always agree with R2, but he's bang on the money here. Life's too short to drink instant. OK, if doing a lightweight long-distance walk in the wilderness, then just maybe ;)

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby al_yrpal » 25 Sep 2014, 12:08pm

honesty wrote:Ask for filter coffee, its cheaper than even an Americano, and you get more.


I do, but you just get a puzzled look from the server. They don't seem to know what a filter coffee is! Many of them are foreigners and don't understand English and British habits and culture. If I visit a decent greasy spoon I always put a review on Tripadvisor.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby karlt » 25 Sep 2014, 12:17pm

Problem with coffee in Britain is there are still plenty of people who woudn't know good coffee if it jumped up in front of them singing the "I'm good coffee" dance wearing a "Good Coffee" T-shirt on National Good Coffee Day in a benefit gig for Good Coffee. There's a place around my way that does a "milky coffee" which consists of one part filter coffee (not espresso, filter coffee) and three parts hot milk. The old dears lap it up. This is a country where some 75% of coffee sales are instant, and Camp and Mellow Tu-, I mean Birds still has a market
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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby thirdcrank » 25 Sep 2014, 12:17pm

al_yrpal wrote:I read an economics book in which coffee shops were used as an example. Main railway stations and motorway service station coffee shops are very expensive largely because of high rent. If there is an alternative like an ordinary cafe or a greasy spoon we'll use that. But, companies like Starbucks charge whatever they think they can get away with. ...


The most basic fact about any business is that if they don't make a profit, they'll go bust. There are all sorts of reasons why they may not make a profit and not covering overheads is only one. Frightening away customers by charging too much is another and that's not simple because high prices can increase demand by giving a sense of exclusiveness.

When a chain of outlets is involved, it tends to be useless complaining because the customer facing colleagues (AKA counter staff) have no way of recording customer feedback. Voting with the feet is the only effective option but you need a lot of other people to feel the same way. It does happen - the current case being the traditional pub trade - but the coffee shop trade seems secure at the mo.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby reohn2 » 25 Sep 2014, 1:05pm

honesty wrote:Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out ;)

I've never quite mastered it :? so stick with espresso with added hot water(Americano).
Pollution in the form of milk(yuck! :? )can be added,but I'd rather not :D
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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby foxyrider » 25 Sep 2014, 1:57pm

Interestingly on my recent trip around Germany the only place with a choice bigger than coffee and milk coffee was at the airport. That's okay with me, theres nothing more infuriating than having to wait for the designer coffees someone has ordered before i can get served with my hot water and leaves!

Cake on the other hand - yum, loads of choice unlike the dry 'muffin', carrot, choc or sponge on offer in UK outlets.
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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby Postboxer » 25 Sep 2014, 2:00pm

It does amaze me how long it takes them to make a cup of coffee, when that's all they're making. Part of me is suspicious that slow on purpose so that you feel they've been doing something magical and special, not something fast and easy, so somehow the coffee must be better.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby Mick F » 25 Sep 2014, 2:45pm

Sod the coffee, drink tea instead.

Nice tea, brewed in a bone china teapot with real loose tea, none of the teabag rubbish, real tealeaves brewed properly.
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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby honesty » 25 Sep 2014, 3:25pm

reohn2 wrote:
honesty wrote:Ah, you need to practice the art of turning up just as a new jug comes out ;)

I've never quite mastered it :? so stick with espresso with added hot water(Americano).
Pollution in the form of milk(yuck! :? )can be added,but I'd rather not :D


As long as its not the travesty that coffee chains push as a cappuccino.... double shot does not make a cappuccino better, even it you are serving it in buckets.

We have a really nice tea house in Taunton now, Miles Tea Rooms, that serves really nice tea, properly. I refuse to pay for tea from coffee chains as they all seem to make awful cups.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby karlt » 25 Sep 2014, 4:05pm

Don't get me started on cappuccino. I was taught one third espresso, one part hot milk, one part foam. Not these milky coffees with spit on that go under the name.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby honesty » 25 Sep 2014, 4:20pm

I was spoiled a bit by going to holiday to Italy for a number of years to stay with family and having proper cappuccinos. The ones over here are far too strong, and either far too bubbly or basically a latte with spit on.

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Re: Cafe & coffee

Postby jayd » 25 Sep 2014, 5:05pm

Quite O.T, so apologies but if I want a quick brew I take a flask instead. I really don't like the "cafe legs" effect.