Vantage wrote:They're promoting cycling right?
In a very restricted way. They are promoting cycling, confined to paths, as a leisure activity requiring a large car.
Vantage wrote:They're promoting cycling right?
661-Pete wrote:
But - that's not what this thread is really about, is it? It's about certain forummers doing their utmost to slang off the Guardian at all costs, is it not?
al_yrpal wrote:Our local coppers and PCOs have Land Rover MTBs, but they cant ride them because they havent had nanny inspect them for 6 months. Why Land Rovers? Its a fashion brand where you pay extra for the cachet of the brand name! The police waste money alarmingly in all sorts of ways, from neglecting their buildings to buying expensive unecessesary kit to having all these different forces leading to top heavy structures that dont fight crime effectively. No wonder you hardly ever see a copper.
Al
pete75 wrote:............. what would you buy to tow a 3 ton cattle trailer.
beardy wrote:The law only says that trailer weights (up to 3.5t) must be within the towing vehicle's manufacturer's stated limits and you can see here that some Landrovers allow the full 3.5t braked trailers.
http://www.landrover.com/content/austra ... very-specs
I dont know if that then puts them in Tacho territory.
reohn2 wrote:beardy wrote:The law only says that trailer weights (up to 3.5t) must be within the towing vehicle's manufacturer's stated limits and you can see here that some Landrovers allow the full 3.5t braked trailers.
http://www.landrover.com/content/austra ... very-specs
I dont know if that then puts them in Tacho territory.
I've just had a look at the law,it must have changed.
I stand corrected.
I'm sure it used to be in the UK that the trailer weight mustn't exceed the weight of the towing vehicle by law.
I know on the continent it was different and was determined by the manufacturers specs,I can only assume the UK has adopted the same ruling.
I've been towing caravans and trailers for 30+ years on a regular basis and this is one law that always stuck in my head,along with the recommendation that for inexperienced users and those who only occasionally tow,a trailer weight of 85% of the towing vehicle's kerb weight is safer.
pete75 wrote:That's never been the law for braked trailers. It may have been for unbraked trailers but now that limit is 3/4 ton regardless of the weight of towing vehicle.
A Defender will tow a lot more than 3 ton.
pete75 wrote:al_yrpal wrote:Our local coppers and PCOs have Land Rover MTBs, but they cant ride them because they havent had nanny inspect them for 6 months. Why Land Rovers? Its a fashion brand where you pay extra for the cachet of the brand name! The police waste money alarmingly in all sorts of ways, from neglecting their buildings to buying expensive unecessesary kit to having all these different forces leading to top heavy structures that dont fight crime effectively. No wonder you hardly ever see a copper.
Al
I'd hardly call Landrover a fashion brand - the 90 and 110 are still about the toughest and most capable off road vehicles made at a reasonable price. They're working vehicles not fashion statements. The army buy enough of them and I don't think they're interested in fashion.......
There's plenty on farms round here and for those who think large 4wd vehicles are a waste of money and have no use what would you buy to tow a 3 ton cattle trailer.