Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby kwackers » 6 Mar 2015, 9:16am

661-Pete wrote:From SH's profile:
If we, and the police, have been taken for a ride on this forum, I'll want to know why. Especially being the thread starter.

Some people just like their moment in the sun. Must have been a bit of a shock when a real live policeman came knocking...
Then again perhaps I'm being unfair and he's just on holiday.

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby Vorpal » 6 Mar 2015, 2:35pm

Forum staff have been in contact with police and are cooperating in the investigation.

This thread was locked briefly today while a copy was preserved.
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby [XAP]Bob » 6 Mar 2015, 3:42pm

Thanks for the explanation Vorpal.

I have to say that Steve has a number of threads which cover a number of topics, so I'd veer away from suggesting trolling just yet...
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby TonyR » 6 Mar 2015, 4:38pm

Meanwhile just started another thread on an interesting debate about the lorry problem in the House of Lords yesterday.

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby niggle » 7 Mar 2015, 7:46am

Massive edit- removed my Youtube link as possibly inappropriate, but maybe this thread should be deleted entirely?
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby The fat commuter » 7 Mar 2015, 10:20am

Vorpal wrote:Forum staff have been in contact with police and are cooperating in the investigation.

This thread was locked briefly today while a copy was preserved.

Does the forum database keep a copy of the pre-edited post? I know in one forum that I used to frequent, if you looked at one of your own posts that you'd edited, you could see all your other posts pre-edit. Just checked and that forum used vBulletin. Obviously not all forums are the same.

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby thirdcrank » 7 Mar 2015, 10:58am

[XAP]Bob wrote:Thanks for the explanation Vorpal.

I have to say that Steve has a number of threads which cover a number of topics, so I'd veer away from suggesting trolling just yet...


Having posted about the value of independent witnesses, I'm hoping, perhaps naively, that there's a good explanation for this and I also hope that it's not because the forum member in question has suffered some injury or other misfortune.

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby 661-Pete » 7 Mar 2015, 11:19am

thirdcrank wrote:Having posted about the value of independent witnesses, I'm hoping, perhaps naively, that there's a good explanation for this and I also hope that it's not because the forum member in question has suffered some injury or other misfortune.

That's unlikely because he appears to have edited his posts, and also removed his avatar.
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby kwackers » 7 Mar 2015, 12:19pm

I'm guessing this means that despite all the discussion and victim blaming we don't actually know that she cycled up the inside of a lorry indicating left after all(?)

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby thirdcrank » 7 Mar 2015, 12:43pm

kwackers wrote:I'm guessing this means that despite all the discussion and victim blaming we don't actually know that she cycled up the inside of a lorry indicating left after all(?)


One thing about anonymous imagined reports more generally is they may affect a trial. Suppose there are several sound witnesses and other evidence amounting to a strong prosecution case, the police must investigate as far as they are able any other material information. If they cannot trace the potential witness, the information must still be disclosed to the defence, for whom it may be a straw to grasp in trying to convince the jury that there is a reasonable doubt. At the very least, it muddies the waters.

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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby 661-Pete » 7 Mar 2015, 3:08pm

kwackers wrote:I'm guessing this means that despite all the discussion and victim blaming we don't actually know that she cycled up the inside of a lorry indicating left after all(?)

That is my interpretation as well: that we don't know.
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

Postby reohn2 » 8 Mar 2015, 1:30am

kwackers wrote:I'm guessing this means that despite all the discussion and victim blaming we don't actually know that she cycled up the inside of a lorry indicating left after all(?)


That's my concern too,as I (possibly naively) took the word of the eye witness account to be valid,however... :?
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Re: Another cyclist death: left-turning lorry

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