Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

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Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby maxcherry » 27 Feb 2015, 1:32am

http://youtu.be/tMnQ7lpOZ3o

Really should learn the 'Highway Code'
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby Vantage » 27 Feb 2015, 4:23am

The pair of'em need a slap.
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby beardy » 27 Feb 2015, 8:36am

One of them has already had his slap, you saw it on the video.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby Phil Fouracre » 27 Feb 2015, 8:52am

Blimey! Stupid cyclist, stupid driver. Irrespective of fault, where was the cyclist looking? Perhaps they are the sort who would blame drivers for not seeing them, but, how do you not see a bloody great lorry right in front of you? Lorry didn't hit cyclist, he rode straight into the side of it!
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby 661-Pete » 27 Feb 2015, 9:07am

I suppose it's rather tempting to be smug here, to declare "I always look both ways, even when there's a green light..." Maybe we all have an attention lapse now and again. Luckily not all of them lead to a body in the morgue.

But the lorry driver's action is a disgrace all the same.

It looks as if the side bars on the trailer saved the cyclist's life.
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby kwackers » 27 Feb 2015, 9:15am

661-Pete wrote:But the lorry driver's action is a disgrace all the same.

I can't tell how much he jumped the lights by on that video.

In this case though I pretty much put most of the blame on the cyclist. He also jumped the lights, didn't see a lorry that was in plain view and completely ignored that bit about "go if the way is clear" that's 3 mistakes.
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby beardy » 27 Feb 2015, 9:21am

Typical cyclists, defending the RLJer. :lol:

The cyclist was an amber gambler and he lost.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby pwa » 27 Feb 2015, 9:22am

Both at fault there, I would say. The cyclist was too quick off the mark and not alert to the possibility of someone coming from the left on a (very) mature amber. Poor survival skills. He also went over what is a pedestrian crossing on amber (minor technical infringement).

The lorry driver was very naughty, failing to stop on a late amber or a red.

Very lucky outcome.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby Redvee » 27 Feb 2015, 11:27am

661-Pete wrote:"I always look both ways, even when there's a green light..."


I'm in that club too.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby ArMoRothair » 27 Feb 2015, 1:26pm

pwa wrote:Both at fault there, I would say. The cyclist was too quick off the mark and not alert to the possibility of someone coming from the left on a (very) mature amber. Poor survival skills. He also went over what is a pedestrian crossing on amber (minor technical infringement).

The lorry driver was very naughty, failing to stop on a late amber or a red.

Very lucky outcome.


That's my take on it too.

It just goes to show why the bigger vehicle should have a higher duty of care.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby gaz » 27 Feb 2015, 1:31pm

pwa wrote:Both at fault there, I would say....

+1
pwa wrote:...Very lucky outcome.

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby mig » 27 Feb 2015, 4:47pm

methinks he's too intent on getting away from the other cyclists waiting at the junction to see/hear the lorry!

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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby MikeF » 28 Feb 2015, 12:09am

Should lights change straight from red to green without the amber? Would that stop vehicles starting on amber? Red means stop, but green means go if it is safe to do so. :wink: Clearly it wasn't, but the other two cyclists may have obscured his view.
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby 661-Pete » 28 Feb 2015, 9:19am

MikeF wrote:Should lights change straight from red to green without the amber? Would that stop vehicles starting on amber? Red means stop, but green means go if it is safe to do so. :wink: Clearly it wasn't, but the other two cyclists may have obscured his view.

It would certainly bring Britain into line with the rest of the world then.

In France, on temporary TLs at road works (but not permanent TLs at junctions), I have seen countdown indicators, indicating the number of seconds remaining on red. I'm undecided as to whether this would be a Good Thing or a Bad Thing. It might calm down some impatient drivers. I believe there's also a similar thing in the USA.
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Re: Brakes work, shame brain doesn't

Postby Tom Richardson » 28 Feb 2015, 9:22am

From the way it has been explained to me by motorists in the past - the guy on the bike's actions were very dangerous. But if he'd run the amber light while driving a truck that was bigger than the blue and white one instead, then the actions of the driver of the blue and white truck would have been very dangerous.