York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby mjr » 4 Apr 2018, 1:15pm

pete75 wrote:
Heltor Chasca wrote:That pose...


Little lad in the orange top does it best.......

The others do look like literal helmet nazi salutes. I wish that image didn't keep getting used. It really puts me off going.
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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 4 Apr 2018, 1:28pm

Sorry you don't like the image - we did worry a bit about the 'salute' aspect but assumed it was clear they were doing the Usain Bolt victory pose (it was taken in 2016, not long before the Olympics). The helmet aspect had honestly never occurred to me. We struggle to find images which are of decent quality, somewhat diverse and which show families at the Rally and, critically, which we have permission to use.

Mmm, maybe I'd best look for another main image for the website, if people really think it's a problem.
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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 4 Apr 2018, 1:30pm

A presentation on the issue of cycle helmets may be worthwhile including. There is some interesting finding emerging over the last couple of years.

I live near York and could give a presentation.


Thanks Steady Rider - be very happy to take you up on that. We'll be in touch shortly. Sorting out the talks schedule is now high on the to do list - any other offers (especially for touring talks) are very welcome. We should have a large TV (rather than projector) and a PA system/amplifier to make presentations a bit easier this year.

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby brynpoeth » 5 Apr 2018, 4:35am

bikepete wrote:Helmets are compulsory for the racing events at the Rally (not our rules), otherwise they are definitely not compulsory.
Fit of childrens' helmets is a matter for their parents.

Looks like the helmets are not sitting correctly on the children's heads
If helmets are depicted they really should be worn correctly IMHO
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby brynpoeth » 5 Apr 2018, 4:36am

mjr wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Heltor Chasca wrote:That pose...


Little lad in the orange top does it best.......

The others do look like literal helmet nazi salutes. I wish that image didn't keep getting used. It really puts me off going.

Me too
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 5 Apr 2018, 8:10am

OK, thanks for all the feedback everyone.

We won't use that image again and I've swapped it out on this thread and on the Rally website... there are still some smaller versions of it on the 2018 leaflet artwork etc. but it's not so easy to change those. I'll also get it changed on Facebook and Twitter.

As mentioned above, we thought it was clearly the Usain Bolt 'bolting' pose and the helmets issue didn't even cross our minds - it is just children and a family having fun in the great outdoors with the York Rally as a backdrop (pity there was nothing happening on the grasstrack arena, mind). But message received that others see it differently.

Please do (if/when the sun comes out!) look out for positive photo opportunities at this year's Rally which we could use in future - all submissions are most welcome. Or if you have any from recent years which you think would work well and which you've not yet sent us, please do email them to us via publicity@yorkrally.org.

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby brynpoeth » 5 Apr 2018, 5:12pm

+1 for the York Rally, had some good times there many years ago
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 16 Apr 2018, 1:50pm

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There's just under two weeks to go until our tough, scenic and tasty York Rally Sportive on Sunday 29th April 2018. There are still some spaces left so sign up now... and tell your mates!

All the details and maps etc. are at: http://yorkrally.org/sportive/ and you can join online via British Cycling: https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/events/details/168077/York-Rally-Sportive#entry

There's 100k and 140k routes to choose from, with or without the ridiculously steep Rosedale Chimney Bank, but all routes definitely include amazing North York Moors scenery plus a warm welcome and superb spreads of cake from our all-volunteer team...

Please do sign up ahead of time to guarantee your place, help our planning, and not least to enjoy the lower entry cost - it's an excellent value £25 in advance, or £30 on the day. All funds raised go to support the revived York Rally: http://yorkrally.org

Hope we'll see you there!

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 2 May 2018, 10:05am

In all the excitement of the York Rally Sportive 2018 last weekend (photos are up now on http://yorkrally.org/sportive/) we neglected to remind people of an important deadline - the close of earlybird campsite bookings for the York Rally 2018!

1st May was the deadline for the reduced earlybird prices... but as a one-off we've decided to extend that until midnight on Bank Holiday Monday (7th May) - so you have a few days left to benefit!

Book your campsite pitch now - online or by post:
http://yorkrally.org/visitor-information/campsite-bookings/

Advance bookings save you money, allow us to site you with your friends or club-mates, and also get you fast-track entry on the Rally weekend. It also helps our planning - so please book your pitch now!

Campers really help make the Rally what it is - for the full experience you need to be there on site. Book your pitch now for a great weekend away :-)

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 22 May 2018, 5:34pm

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With just a month to go until the 2018 York Rally it's getting exciting! Our all-volunteer team have been busy finalising arrangements - and coming up with some new ideas too...

Read on in our latest update for more about rides, our new Arena Parades, clothing and badges, site layout changes, music, talks, the dreaded GDPR, and more...

http://yorkrally.org/2018/05/22/2018-york-rally-new-things-coming/

(1) Rides are up!

We’ve now updated the rides listings for 2018:

http://yorkrally.org/rides-at-the-rally/

Many popular favourites are back – including the Audax, and enjoyable rides run by valued partners such as RSF, Audax UK, York Greenway, Sustrans, and Bike Belles. Many thanks to all of the ride leaders and volunteers who help with these rides.

But as you’ll note from the current listings, we’re still short of ride leaders this year for a number of the ‘alphabet’ rides, and the Saturday evening pub ride, as several stalwart volunteers are for various reasons unavailable. If you can help, please email our Rides Co-ordinator Gary ASAP on rides@yorkrally.org.

As a backstop we’re planning to introduce a series of new self-led rides, so that Rally-goers can ride together from a set start point and time – but taking charge of route-finding for yourselves. We’re thinking this might cover one short, one medium and one longer ride each day, with route sheets/maps available at Rally HQ, and GPX files for you to download. Watch this space… we’ll update the listings as soon as we’ve finalised the details.

We’re also bringing in very short rides on site that everyone can join:

(2) Arena Parades!

Everyone on site with a bike is welcome to join our Grand Arena Parades – which will take place at 4PM on Saturday and 3PM on Sunday. We’ll gather on the grasstrack racing arena and take a circuit or two! The exact arrangements will depend on turnout, but we’re thinking the delicate historic cycles might go first, and we could have a children’s circuit, and other groups like e.g. trikes, tandems, recumbents could all take their turn… be there and join in!

(3) Clothing and badges

If you’d like to order York Rally clothing for collection at the Rally, please do so by the 30th May! We’ll have only a limited supply of colours and sizes on sale at the Rally. All the details are on:

http://yorkrally.org/york-rally-merchandise/

Note that if you’re signed up as a volunteer you can order clothing at cost price – please just contact us for the password to access the volunteer ordering page.

Also – huge thanks to the volunteer graphic designer who got in touch after our last mailing with some ideas for the 2018 York Rally badge. We’re now having one of the designs made up and will let everyone know ASAP, with pictures, when stocks arrive. They’ll be on sale at Rally HQ, of course, or at any time from the website for mail order.

(4) Layout changes – saddlebag sale, disabled parking, disabled camping

We’ve decided this year to move the main marquee a little way into the site, away from the enclosure fence. This will free up more space for disabled parking, and Saddlebag Sale traders will also have a designated space for unloading. Please watch out for signs as you approach the area.

We’ve also had several discussions about where we should site disabled camping pitches – and would welcome your feedback. The area in the corner of the perimeter road near the toilet block, behind the catering and trade tents is one option, but the ground is rough, it’s rather close to the generators and there’s also a fair bit of trade traffic going past. Its’ also rather isolated from the main campsite. But would proximity to the toilets outweight these considerations?

If disabled camping is of interest to you, please do drop in at HQ at some point and leave your feedback – or just send us an email at any time (info@yorkrally.org).

Incidentally, York Racecourse have been re-building the toilet facilities in the Enclosure. We’ll still have access to water and use of the loos, but watch out for some site layout changes there, too.

(5) Music

As well as the traditional performance by the Foresters folk band on Saturday night we’re delighted that rock and roll band The Sonics (three keen cyclists) will be entertaining the crowds during the day on Saturday…

(6) Talks

We’re finalising the talks schedule for 2018, and have some fine speakers lined up, but there are still a few gaps. If you’ve been on a great tour recently – or have expertise in any area of cycling you’d like to share with Rally-goers, please get in touch via publicity@yorkrally.org ASAP! Modest inducements may be available for talk-givers :-)

We’ll have a widescreen TV and amplification on hand for presentations this year – which should be a step up from the projector set-up of 2017!

(7) GDPR – how we use your data

As many of you will know, stricter data protection rules are coming into force on Friday and even small volunteer organisations like the York Rally are affected. To ensure we comply we’ve done a data audit, developed guidelines for volunteers who handle data, and revised our Privacy Policy, which you can read here:

http://yorkrally.org/privacy-policy/

Anyone who signed up to our newsletter via our website since we set up our new mailing system in 2015 will not be affected, as we have always used a double opt-in process. However, in the next few days we will be emailing a number of you who were added to the list before that to invite you to re-subscribe to the newsletter, as it’s not clear that we could prove how you opted in.

We’re working hard to ensure the Rally is fully GDPR compliant, and fully embrace its philosophy of the responsible, transparent use of data.

(8) Camping – advance bookings still open

Almost finally, there’s still time to book your campsite pitch! Book ahead for fast-track entry on site, and to be sited with friends or club-mates. It’s also a little cheaper than if you book in on the day, and advance bookings also help us with forward planning!

http://yorkrally.org/visitor-information/campsite-bookings/

(9) Our next meeting

As ever, all are very welcome at our final planning meeting before the 2018 Rally, which is on the 9th June 2018 at 10AM at the Church Hall of St Chad’s on the Knavesmire, Campleshon Road, York YO23 1EY, followed by a site meeting on the Knavesmire. Please just let us know if you would like a lift from the railway station.


That’s all for now – thanks for your attention! We’ll be back with more soon…

Your all-volunteer York Rally team

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby Littgull » 23 May 2018, 9:05am

I think you need to be aware that Transpennine Express recent cycle policy revision will likely have a huge adverse effect on attendance at this event. They now only make 2 bike space available on each train and require reservations for bikes 24 hours in advance. Unfortunately, Cycling UK are doing very little to support cyclists against reversing this draconian policy.

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby bikepete » 23 May 2018, 9:51am

Thanks for the heads-up - I'll mention that in the next newsletter...

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby Cycling UK Publicity » 23 May 2018, 11:59am

Littgull wrote:I think you need to be aware that Transpennine Express recent cycle policy revision will likely have a huge adverse effect on attendance at this event. They now only make 2 bike space available on each train and require reservations for bikes 24 hours in advance. Unfortunately, Cycling UK are doing very little to support cyclists against reversing this draconian policy.


Hi Littgull,

We're not happy at all about mandatory booking 24hrs in advance - it's akin to the GWR fiasco where they tried to implement similar ruling. Just as we did with GWR, Cycling UK can assure we are actively seeking dialogue with Transpennine Express to talk them out of this discriminatory policy. It's always better to seek dialogue first before launching a public campaign - unfortunately these things do take time, but with the date of the York Rally pressing we will definitely be aiming to have changes before then.

In the meantime, if you are affected by Transpennine's new anti-cycle policy in your day to day journeying, please let us know by emailing campaigns[at]cyclinguk.org

All the best,

Cycling UK Publicity

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby Steady rider » 23 May 2018, 12:56pm

Back in about 1986 my wife and I arrived at a minor station, waited for the next train, guard said he had two bicycles already, had to wait for next train - not knowing if it would also have bikes on it. Anytime you are cycling and find you may need a train unexpectedly then it could prevent you using the train. Half way to Scotland came down with flu symptoms, caught the train home, in the days of guards vans - good old days.

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Re: York Rally 2018: 23-24th June

Postby Littgull » 23 May 2018, 8:23pm

Thank you for your reply on behalf of Cycling UK Publicity - which is most appreciated. I am really pleased you are taking this matter up with TransPennine Express (T.P.E).

It may be a good move to communicate widely with members your intention to seek an urgent dialogue with T.P.E and the fact that Cycling UK are very concerned about their discriminatory practice. There is widespread outrage amongst the cycling community of this disgraceful practice by T.P.E.It doesn't just affect leisure cyclists but many cyclists depend on being able to take their bikes on board T.P.E trains as part of their daily commute to work with use of teir bikes at each end of the train journey. This is proving almost impossible with only 2 bikes allowed per train and 24 hour advance booking required.

Kind Regards,

Brian