Bmblbzzz wrote:Well, I'm only quoting what I was told! I'm quite impressed if it is about 12kg in its 'bare' state. Mind you, I'm also a bit surprised they sell it like that -- though I suppose it allows people to choose their own racks and guards.
The Salsa Vaya is sold as a tourer/gravel/'any road' bike.It's not what's these days termed as an 'expedition' bike,so not a heavy tourer.
That said IMO it'll handle a four pannier camping load no problem as many tests and reports testify to,here's one:- http://pathlesspedaled.com/2012/12/sals ... surly-lht/
There's only one person on the forum who tours on a Vaya that I'm aware of,and complains that a camping load is too much for it,but having seen photos of his bike loaded I'm not surprised,as all the load is on the rear on a less than solid rack.
I've advised as to where IMO the problem lies,as has a far more experienced touring cyclist than me,but so far haven't had a reply or indication he's done anything about it.
Also, one by for a tourer, really?
Don't understand (?)
EDIT:- another 5000mile report http://milestonerides.com/2014/12/18/20 ... le-review/