I want one of these! Ubco 2x2

[mercalia]

Two wheels, two motors, no petrol, no noise. Ubco will redefine how you work and play outdoors.
Until I saw the price of £4000. But wow a big improvement over the normal fare?


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[CREPELLO]

What no pedals? Where's the fun in that?

[MikeF]

But wow a big improvement over the normal fare?

In what way? Use on your South London Farm??

[mercalia]

I am sure could be made road legal and any way I have a m/c licence would be a good alternative to my motorbike for running around on, far better than a e-bike or a moped. could have bright future as a new Boris Bike or commuter (I wonder if could be taken on trains?)

[Roadster]

"Until I saw the price of £4000"

I don't see a price of £4000. I do see a price of £5000.

[mercalia]

"Until I saw the price of £4000"

I don't see a price of £4000. I do see a price of £5000.

you are quibbling over a 1000 - I stopped looking when I saw was it 4---

[gaz]

I am sure could be made road legal ...

Either by making it a motorcycle with type approval, tax, insurance, MOT and helmet requirements, or by making it a pedelec by adding pedals and transmission together with the relevant motor-assisted speed restrictions. There may be some point in the former but the latter market is well served.

[MarkF]

Don't understand it, it makes no sense to me?

For £4k I could buy a vintage Vespa, range 130m+, 100+mpg, zero road tax and insurance sub £100, it would only go up in value too. But I already have one, so have bought a Suzuki Van Van for my winter commute, £15 road tax, 100+mpg and insurance sub £100.

£1200 for 2010 bike with 4000 miles.

[mercalia]

Don't understand it, it makes no sense to me?

For £4k I could buy a vintage Vespa, range 130m+, 100+mpg, zero road tax and insurance sub £100, it would only go up in value too. But I already have one, so have bought a Suzuki Van Van for my winter commute, £15 road tax, 100+mpg and insurance sub £100.

£1200 for 2010 bike with 4000 miles.

nice bike. what is it? ah Van Van is its name thought a dupe typo. 125cc then as the 200cc only just introduced to the UK this year? But most of those vintage vespa by now have worn out engines. what is yours? 125cc 200 cc 250?

My insurance for my 900cc is less than £100 in London so no big deal. road tax about £85/pa

[pyruse]

That e-motorbike will be a lot quieter than a vintage Vespa.
The worst thing about some motorbikes is how hideously noisy they are (I realise the noise is part of the attraction for some).

[Ruadh495]

I can see the point of that too. It's definitely a motorbike though, and a few hoops to jump through to get it road legal. As it is a motorbike you could go the SVA route...

[MarkF]

nice bike. what is it? ah Van Van is its name thought a dupe typo. 125cc then as the 200cc only just introduced to the UK this year? But most of those vintage vespa by now have worn out engines. what is yours? 125cc 200 cc 250?

My insurance for my 900cc is less than £100 in London so no big deal. road tax about £85/pa

I bought the Van Van because the Vespa is too valuable to leave outside work, I had an electric bike last year (just to see.........) but they just don't
make sense for me. Too slow, too expensive and with horrific residuals, I could run the Van Van for peanuts for 3 years and lose maybe £200/300.

Vespa's don't really suffer from "worn out" engines, they only have 3 moving parts in the top end, mine is a GL and runs perfectly.........on the original 1962 engine

[mercalia]

nice bike. what is it? ah Van Van is its name thought a dupe typo. 125cc then as the 200cc only just introduced to the UK this year? But most of those vintage vespa by now have worn out engines. what is yours? 125cc 200 cc 250?

My insurance for my 900cc is less than £100 in London so no big deal. road tax about £85/pa

I bought the Van Van because the Vespa is too valuable to leave outside work, I had an electric bike last year (just to see.........) but they just don't
make sense for me. Too slow, too expensive and with horrific residuals, I could run the Van Van for peanuts for 3 years and lose maybe £200/300.

Vespa's don't really suffer from "worn out" engines, they only have 3 moving parts in the top end, mine is a GL and runs perfectly.........on the original 1962 engine

well big end bearings can wear out and also the bores. when I had a 2 stroke triple after about 30,000 miles the big end bearings were quite lose and i think about to break up. for some reason didnt use needle bearings just the ball type - I was glad some one stole it out side my flat, didnt have to take it to a breakers

I think i read some where that the makers of the Vespa have brought out one that is electric - looks like the real thing just dont use petrol.

[andrewk]

Ubco 2x2 is too expensive v motorbikes plus it has weak cycle parts as against sturdy motorcycle parts....as MarkF wrote just buy a Van Van...cheaper, sturdier and more capable.