horizon wrote:I like the Ortlieb colours - it's that rubbery shiny material . . .
The plus versions are material (cordura?) on the outside.
horizon wrote:I like the Ortlieb colours - it's that rubbery shiny material . . .
F70100 wrote:MrsHJ wrote: I will shortly unleash my excel spreadsheet of panniers in this thread
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to this...
Tangled Metal wrote:Carradry version of Carradice might be a compromise?
I'm a fan of Ortliebs so can't help much but unlimited money it's arkel (lottery win permitting of course otherwise I can't justify £300+).
MrsHJ wrote:F70100 wrote:MrsHJ wrote: I will shortly unleash my excel spreadsheet of panniers in this thread
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to this...
Let it not be said that I don't deliver on a threat. I have subsequently colour coded it and attributed my scores to each colour to produce a total score (I mentioned I'm an accountant didn't I?!).
Eton Rifle wrote:Tangled Metal wrote:Carradry version of Carradice might be a compromise?
I'm a fan of Ortliebs so can't help much but unlimited money it's arkel (lottery win permitting of course otherwise I can't justify £300+).
Just out of interest, I had a look at Arkel - they do look very nice - the classic bags especially but by God, are they heavy. A pair of T-42 Classics weighs 2.3kg against 1.68kg for a pair of Ortlieb Back Roller Plus.
I can understand the OP's frustration with 'bucket' designs but you kinda get used to keeping stuff you're likely to need during the day on top or in a bar bag. As others have noted, the drybag / stuff sack method of organisation works pretty well to keep things organised.
willem jongman wrote:We have always used Ortlieb classic panniers, and <SNIP>
willem jongman wrote:As an experiment I did precisely that for a long weekend in the Ardennes, but for anything longer they are a bit too small at 25 litres. I really would not know how to reduce my packsize enough, and that is with a PHD minimus sleeping bag and an Exped Synmat UL for sleeping. I could leave my Trangia 27 at home, but I like freshly cooked meals.
willem jongman wrote:Sure, but that adds another kg.