A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby gaz » 7 Jun 2018, 4:37pm

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/romney-mars ... th-184267/
A jury at Canterbury Crown Court had failed to agree whether or not Penfold, 21, had been driving dangerously when she caused the fatal accident.

Crown prosecutors have since decided they will not be asking for a second trial after she had earlier pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of causing death by careless driving.

Penfold had been driving her car when she overtook two vehicles on the A2070 in May last year, but she failed to spot the cyclist coming in the opposite direction.
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Judge Lowe gave Penfold a 12-month community order and banned her from driving for 18 months

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Postby The utility cyclist » 8 Jun 2018, 4:52pm

gaz wrote:http://www.kentonline.co.uk/romney-marsh/news/driver-avoids-jail-after-admitting-causing-cyclists-death-184267/
A jury at Canterbury Crown Court had failed to agree whether or not Penfold, 21, had been driving dangerously when she caused the fatal accident.

Crown prosecutors have since decided they will not be asking for a second trial after she had earlier pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of causing death by careless driving.

Penfold had been driving her car when she overtook two vehicles on the A2070 in May last year, but she failed to spot the cyclist coming in the opposite direction.
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Judge Lowe gave Penfold a 12-month community order and banned her from driving for 18 months

Yet another disgusting outcome, the jurists who did not agree with her being guilty of dangerous driving after being able to see the person she killed for 45 seconds should hang their heads in shame, the judge is simply a moron and not fit for purpose.The so called justice system is clearly also not fit for purpose that allows this travesty of justice as it has done on so many occasions, it's a complete mockery when you have people who clearly are not able to adjudge motoring cases as they for the most-part are inherently bias/unable to see the wrong from the outset because they are motorists themselves and too often see no wrong in the actions taken because they themselves would be as likely to make the same errors. :twisted:
But yeah, let's have more up to date laws for people on bikes, if this was a non motoring case and so it'd be manslaughter I would think the outcome would be different.

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby awavey » 16 Jun 2018, 4:23pm

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/newmarket-mo ... -1-5562711

Danut Birle, 23, of Newmarket, was handed a nine month sentence suspended for two years after pleading guilty to death by careless driving

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Postby KTHSullivan » 13 Aug 2018, 10:45am

Not sure this has been previously covered but nevertheless.

About a week or so ago on my local TV news BBC Look North there was a solicitor calling for more lenient sentences for those living in rural communities apprehended for drunk driving. His thinking was, somewhat perversely in my opinion, was that due to the demise of public transport any potential driving ban would have a greater detrimental affect than those convicted of a similar offence in an urban environment. I have tried to find a link for the article over the last few days but to no avail.

However whilst endeavouring to find aforementioned article my search threw up dozens if not hundreds of links to legal and Para-legal firms within the UK whose specialism sadly seems to be dealing with drunks using motor vehicles.

Now if we are to consider that the supply of a particular commodity or service reflects the demand for such a service per se; are we to assume that although the conviction rate for drunk driving has fallen, it’s incidence may be more pronounced than perhaps the “official” figures reveal?
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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby gaz » 8 Sep 2018, 8:58pm

https://thelincolnite.co.uk/2018/09/man ... -cyclists/
In a statement released through Leigh Day law firm after the hearing Sue and Bill Tweddell said: Bill is still in hospital, with no idea of when or how he might come home.

Bill is now going to be leading his life from a wheelchair, he is paralysed from his chest down and needs intensive support for his personal care and breathing issues day and night


Bradbury, of Balmoral Drive, Sleaford, admitted three charges of causing serious injury by dangerous driving on September 10, 2017.

He was jailed for three years and nine months, banned from driving for three years and must take an extended driving test.

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Postby reohn2 » 21 Sep 2018, 6:31pm

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby ianrobo » 21 Sep 2018, 7:17pm

Allison got was it 18 months because he could not stop because a pedestrian walked out in front of him

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/c ... 42281.html

I can not say how angry these stories make me and the sentencing just compounds it

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby thirdcrank » 21 Sep 2018, 7:28pm

A more detailed report in the local rag, including the rest of the sentence:

Benbow was banned from driving for 12 months and will have to retake his driving test after the disqualification period.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-15182429

I occasionally do Grandad's airport taxi service and I'm irked by a lot of the exhorbitant charges but road rage is hardly the answer. FWIW, I fancy that for a person of good character, a suspended sentence is within sentencing guidelines here but it's wrong for a judge to use their privileged position to air their personal views about things like airport parking charges.

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Postby fastpedaller » 21 Sep 2018, 7:49pm

Astonishing! The airport worker could have been killed. If the defendant had thrown a punch at the victim (instead of driving at him with a car) I suspect he would have received a higher sentence. Our legal system (where leniency is shown towards dangerous motons) just stinks!

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby reohn2 » 21 Sep 2018, 8:15pm

thirdcrank wrote:A more detailed report in the local rag, including the rest of the sentence:

Benbow was banned from driving for 12 months and will have to retake his driving test after the disqualification period.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-15182429

Thanks for that TC,I shouldve dug a little more than the incomplete BBC report.

I occasionally do Grandad's airport taxi service and I'm irked by a lot of the exhorbitant charges but road rage is hardly the answer. FWIW, I fancy that for a person of good character, a suspended sentence is within sentencing guidelines here but it's wrong for a judge to use their privileged position to air their personal views about things like airport parking charges.

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Postby 661-Pete » 21 Sep 2018, 9:59pm

There'll be no justice for vulnerable users of our roads, whilst judges like that sit their fat backsides on the bench....
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Postby brynpoeth » 22 Sep 2018, 6:43am

thirdcrank wrote:A more detailed report in the local rag, including the rest of the sentence:

Benbow was banned from driving for 12 months and will have to retake his driving test after the disqualification period.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... p-15182429

I occasionally do Grandad's airport taxi service and I'm irked by a lot of the exhorbitant charges but road rage is hardly the answer. FWIW, I fancy that for a person of good character, a suspended sentence is within sentencing guidelines here but it's wrong for a judge to use their privileged position to air their personal views about things like airport parking charges.

Psychology teacher? Do his pupils know about this?
Exorbitant? I thought: GBP 20 maybe, read the article, GBP 3 is not much, the price of a short bus journey, anyone agree?
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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby kwackers » 28 Sep 2018, 11:50am

5 years?
Shocking video, he should never be allowed to drive again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-45680170/driver-smashes-into-car-as-he-checks-his-phone

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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby Vorpal » 29 Sep 2018, 10:29am

3 year ban and suspended sentence for killing a 10 year old cyclist...
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news ... th-2055259
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Re: A place to record lenient sentencing for motorvehicle....

Postby thelawnet » 3 Oct 2018, 4:03pm

Driver one: doing 46-52mph in 30mph pedestrian area with lots of shops and pedestrians at all hours (Streetview: https://goo.gl/maps/7qt2w9Uq33B2)
Driver two: NQD pulled out on driver one, causing collision, both cars mount pavement, kill pedestrian

Outcome:
driver 1 12 month suspended sentence, 180 hours community service, 4 month curfew, 3 year driving ban
driver 2 6 month suspended sentence, 140 hours community service, 3 month curfew, 3 year driving ban

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey ... g-15089038
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey ... l-12314598