thirdcrank wrote:..... Is the role of the charity to promote cycling or to promote itself? .......
Makes you wonder dunit
thirdcrank wrote:..... Is the role of the charity to promote cycling or to promote itself? .......
bovlomov wrote:reohn2 wrote:bovlomov wrote:I know some roads are shown, but not as most of us experience them.
A bit like car advertisments on TV,it's driving Jim but not as we know it
That hadn't occurred to me, but yes. It's selling a dream, of carefree pootling along carfree lanes. A recipe for disappointment.
PH wrote:bovlomov wrote:reohn2 wrote:A bit like car advertisments on TV,it's driving Jim but not as we know it
That hadn't occurred to me, but yes. It's selling a dream, of carefree pootling along carfree lanes. A recipe for disappointment.
Speak for yourself, I identify with four of those six covers, maybe I am living the dream
bovlomov wrote:PH wrote:bovlomov wrote:That hadn't occurred to me, but yes. It's selling a dream, of carefree pootling along carfree lanes. A recipe for disappointment.
Speak for yourself, I identify with four of those six covers, maybe I am living the dream
Yes, perhaps.
I can certainly identify with riding on roads where there are neither pavements nor markings. It's the car-free bit I'm struggling with. Are there really such places?
You don't have a DeLorean bike by any chance, do you?
bovlomov wrote:reohn2 wrote:bovlomov wrote:I know some roads are shown, but not as most of us experience them.
A bit like car advertisments on TV,it's driving Jim but not as we know it
That hadn't occurred to me, but yes. It's selling a dream, of carefree pootling along carfree lanes. A recipe for disappointment.
PH wrote: ... Here's CTC Derby & Burton's Flickr pages, contributions from a dozen of so members, plenty of photos of people riding, not that many with cars in them, that doesn't mean there's never any cars, but neither has anyone set out to deceive
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149532011@N04/
hil Fouracre » 2 Dec 2018, 1:03pm
I’ve every sympathy! Did a ride leader course with British Cycling, but didn’t continue due to ‘disagreeing’ over helmets! Such a pointless waste of time and effort
Steady rider wrote:Can anyone tell me the position of a Cycling UK member wanting to join a BC ride, without a helmet?
RickH wrote:AFAIK Breeze (ladies only) is supposed to be the same as the guided rides.
pjclinch wrote:thirdcrank wrote:I think it's fair to say that "product placement" - depicting helmet wearing as normal - is a powerful form of promotion
On the one hand that's part of why I refuse to teach Bikeability wearing a helmet, but on the other it is the case in the UK that helmet wearing is normal, and unlike e.g. sexism which is also prevalent it is generally held to be at least reasonable.
mjr wrote:pjclinch wrote:thirdcrank wrote:I think it's fair to say that "product placement" - depicting helmet wearing as normal - is a powerful form of promotion
On the one hand that's part of why I refuse to teach Bikeability wearing a helmet, but on the other it is the case in the UK that helmet wearing is normal, and unlike e.g. sexism which is also prevalent it is generally held to be at least reasonable.
We could debate what "normal" means, but about 2 out of 3 UK cyclists do not use helmets, so it's a minority pursuit, despite the opposite being shown in Cycle and definitely in other cycling media.
Phil Fouracre wrote:My conflict with British Cycling, and my understanding of their ‘rules’ came about during and after my ride leader course.
On the course I was told it was mandatory while I was being ‘trained’ to comply with their insurance, unhappy, but complied. On completion and prior to leading a ride, I was told that I should wear a helmet to ‘set a good example’ and that they would ‘frown on anyone who didn’t abide by the rules’ quite whose I wasn’t told. It was interesting to do the course, but, just left a little disillusioned by the attitude of the organisation
pjclinch wrote:Enthusiasts for cycling in the UK have an outsized tendency to come from a sporting and/or "I take this seriously so I have All The Proper Gear" angle, and if you come in from those angles then helmets are prevalent. As the previously linked pictures from a CC attest.
Pete.