assymetry police....

Post by **ncutler** » 12 Sep 2008, 11:17am

Observed in Norfolk two weeks ago:

Nick

thirdcrank · Post by **thirdcrank** » 12 Sep 2008, 4:27pm

In my dictionary (Chambers) pannier is defined as a basket for carrying bread - no mention of bike use. A couple of years ago some member of the royal family, possibly Camilla, was in collision with a cyclist. By the time the report had been sub-edited and mangled, the cyclist was an eccentric riding a bike fitted with bread baskets....(At least he had a well-balanced pair.

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Post by **ncutler** » 12 Sep 2008, 4:36pm

google imagines:

# outcropping to the sides of a dress or gown; a narrow farthingale.

# lidded wicker of canvas framed baskets mounted upon either side of a pack saddle and used to carry signal supplies and pyrotechnics

# either of a pair of bags or boxes hung over the rear wheel of a vehicle (as a bicycle)

# a large basket (usually one of a pair) carried by a beast of burden or by a person

# set of small hoops used to add fullness over the hips

# A pannier is a basket, bag, or similar container, carried in pairs either slung over the back of a beast of burden, or attached to a bicycle or motorcycle.

# Panniers or side hoops are women's undergarments worn in the eighteenth century to extend the width of the skirts at the side while leaving the front and back flat. This provided a flat panel where boldly scaled woven patterns or rich embroidery could be fully appreciated.

# A basket or bag fastened, often in pairs, to the back of a bicycle or horse; A hoop used to expand the volume of a woman's skirt

reohn2 · Post by **reohn2** » 12 Sep 2008, 6:36pm

ncutler wrote:google imagines:

# outcropping to the sides of a dress or gown; a narrow farthingale.

# lidded wicker of canvas framed baskets mounted upon either side of a pack saddle and used to carry signal supplies and pyrotechnics

# either of a pair of bags or boxes hung over the rear wheel of a vehicle (as a bicycle)

# a large basket (usually one of a pair) carried by a beast of burden or by a person

# set of small hoops used to add fullness over the hips

# A pannier is a basket, bag, or similar container, carried in pairs either slung over the back of a beast of burden, or attached to a bicycle or motorcycle.

# Panniers or side hoops are women's undergarments worn in the eighteenth century to extend the width of the skirts at the side while leaving the front and back flat. This provided a flat panel where boldly scaled woven patterns or rich embroidery could be fully appreciated.

# A basket or bag fastened, often in pairs, to the back of a bicycle or horse; A hoop used to expand the volume of a woman's skirt

Oooooooh....................

dan_b · Post by **dan_b** » 12 Sep 2008, 6:53pm

DaveP wrote:No. Left external reproductive gland and left half of bosom typically hang lower.

I realised the other day that so does the left side of my pelvis. I don't think there's any fundamental reason for that though, I'm just standing lopsidedly

ferrit worrier · Post by **ferrit worrier** » 12 Sep 2008, 7:11pm

dan_b wrote:
DaveP wrote:No. Left external reproductive gland and left half of bosom typically hang lower.

I realised the other day that so does the left side of my pelvis. I don't think there's any fundamental reason for that though, I'm just standing lopsidedly

Probably explains why I always use my left foot as support when stationary! I do somtimes use the right to try and balance the wear on the cleats, but it feels wierd.

Malc

andrew_s · Post by **andrew_s** » 12 Sep 2008, 9:56pm

Mick F wrote:Can you get a penny farthing with a smaller front wheel and a hub gear? Sounds a good idea. Absolutely maintenance-free. No chain!

Basically, a front-wheel-drive bike?

like this Alpha Bantam, as used in this 2003 time trial?
Might be a bit on the expensive side.

Edwards · Post by **Edwards** » 12 Sep 2008, 10:17pm

This is available for £150 with 700c front wheel

Mike F could you rebuild the front wheel with hub gears. I am not sure :?:

fossil · Post by **fossil** » 12 Sep 2008, 10:27pm

I am a follower of the god of symmetry :roll:

so i would put a pair of paniers on the back even if i only had enough brick's to fill one :twisted:

David Cox · Post by **David Cox** » 12 Sep 2008, 10:37pm

Dont motorbikes and mopeds have chain drive on the left ? I think I've seen left drive bikes made up of mopeds with the engine removed. does it matter and does it affect riding in Australia ?

mhara · Post by **mhara** » 12 Sep 2008, 10:48pm

David Cox wrote:Dont motorbikes and mopeds have chain drive on the left ? I think I've seen left drive bikes made up of mopeds with the engine removed. does it matter and does it affect riding in Australia ?

All Australians are on the wrong side all the time anyway, no matter whether their chains are left or right.

Ambermile · Post by **Ambermile** » 12 Sep 2008, 11:10pm

mhara wrote:
David Cox wrote:Dont motorbikes and mopeds have chain drive on the left ? I think I've seen left drive bikes made up of mopeds with the engine removed. does it matter and does it affect riding in Australia ?

All Australians are on the wrong side all the time anyway, no matter whether their chains are left or right.

Eh? That must mean I was doing some *serious* misdemeanours last time I was driving over there... unless you mean something a bit deeper than driving?

Arthur

mhara · Post by **mhara** » 13 Sep 2008, 5:33am

Ambermile wrote:
mhara wrote:
David Cox wrote:Dont motorbikes and mopeds have chain drive on the left ? I think I've seen left drive bikes made up of mopeds with the engine removed. does it matter and does it affect riding in Australia ?

All Australians are on the wrong side all the time anyway, no matter whether their chains are left or right.

Eh? That must mean I was doing some *serious* misdemeanours last time I was driving over there... unless you mean something a bit deeper than driving?
Arthur

Much, much, much deeper. Take cricket, for instance.

If we win the Ashes then they're on the wrong side because they lost. If they win the Ashes they're on the wrong side because they beat us. Simple really.

Post by **Mick F** » 13 Sep 2008, 7:28am

andrew_s wrote:like this Alpha Bantam, as used in this 2003 time trial?
Might be a bit on the expensive side.

See?
Another of my "inventions" been done before!

Edwards wrote:This is available for £150 with 700c front wheel

Mike F could you rebuild the front wheel with hub gears. I am not sure

Though this could do with a hub gear. Though I don't know how it could be done, perhaps Mr Rohloff would have something to say.
(At last! A good use for his over-complicated and eccentric gearbox!)

Ambermile · Post by **Ambermile** » 13 Sep 2008, 9:16am

mhara wrote:
Ambermile wrote:
mhara wrote:
David Cox wrote:Dont motorbikes and mopeds have chain drive on the left ? I think I've seen left drive bikes made up of mopeds with the engine removed. does it matter and does it affect riding in Australia ?

All Australians are on the wrong side all the time anyway, no matter whether their chains are left or right.

Eh? That must mean I was doing some *serious* misdemeanours last time I was driving over there... unless you mean something a bit deeper than driving?
Arthur

Much, much, much deeper. Take cricket, for instance.

If we win the Ashes then they're on the wrong side because they lost. If they win the Ashes they're on the wrong side because they beat us. Simple really.

Ah, I see. In that case I have to agree then