Cyclist guilty of lack of consideration for hitting a horse

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Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

The road was not closed.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event


Ah well, that just about sums it up! Just about identical to the rubbish spouted by the self entitled ***** who shout at cyclists for being on the road, and, in the way of their cars. :-(
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reohn2 wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

Because she has every right to be using that road at anytime she wishes.


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Phil Fouracre wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event


Ah well, that just about sums it up! Just about identical to the rubbish spouted by the self entitled ***** who shout at cyclists for being on the road, and, in the way of their cars. :-(


Yeah whatever. I suspect that she was well aware that there was an event on, the signs had been up for weeks. Anything for a bit of attention eh?.
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Vorpal wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

The road was not closed.


But she almost certainly knew what was going to happen, could have chosen a different route, but chose not to. You make your bed, you lie in it.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Vorpal wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

The road was not closed.


But she almost certainly knew what was going to happen, could have chosen a different route, but chose not to. You make your bed, you lie in it.

And if a car driver says that to you when you choose to cycle on a road knowing there are going to be cars there.....?
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According to some people cyclists can do no wrong :?
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Vorpal wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

The road was not closed.


But she almost certainly knew what was going to happen, could have chosen a different route, but chose not to. You make your bed, you lie in it.


I’m sure the sign would have warned of a cycle event. If you MA associate those two words with 'a bunch of inconsiderate cyclists allowed tocycle as they wish'. Then I sincerely hope you are in a minority and that you never reap the rewards of your inconsiderate views.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
Vorpal wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:Why was the horse rider not dragged in to answer the question “why the hell were you riding a horse on a road you knew full well was being used for a cycling event”

The road was not closed.


But she almost certainly knew what was going to happen, could have chosen a different route, but chose not to. You make your bed, you lie in it.

Please stop digging, you're really not helping yourself :shock:
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Seems very unlikely someone would plan on something happening to get some attention, when that something might be falling off a horse and dying. More likely she was either unaware of the event, assumed cyclists would respect other road users, or had no easy alternative route.
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Although if they did they'd definitely be wearing a helmet cam whilst doing it.

I think Marcus is getting an overly hard time. If you knew a triathlon, running event or anything similar was using a route you'd probably avoid it for a leisurely cycle, run, trot or drive unless you'd no option. I certainly would.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. The cyclists can be in the wrong for their passing and especially for contact AND the horse rider can be a twit if they planned their ride through a race or saw signage and didn't think twice about the situation.
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The rider's decision, if it were that, was completely vindicated. Someone on a bike rode like a fool, they and their horse behaved impeccably.
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alexnharvey wrote:Although if they did they'd definitely be wearing a helmet cam whilst doing it.

I think Marcus is getting an overly hard time. If you knew a triathlon, running event or anything similar was using a route you'd probably avoid it for a leisurely cycle, run, trot or drive unless you'd no option. I certainly would.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. The cyclists can be in the wrong for their passing and especially for contact AND the horse rider can be a twit if they planned their ride through a race or saw signage and didn't think twice about the situation.


That decision might be dependent on what the sign said. The only reference I can find is 'cycle event' I would take that to be anything from a time trial to a local charityfun ride. I wouldn’t go out of my way to avoid either. Or the sign might have said 'caution cyclists' I’d take that as a request to drivers to please take care.
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Human Race Events said they will also be improving signage for the Royal Windsor Triathlon and improving communication with the horse riding community.

I very much doubt the signs next year will say ' cycle race on this road Sunday, some riders will ignore rules and etiquette at all costs. Please will all other road users find an alternative route'
A few months ago I did 5 miles on a narrow lane to discover it was the route for a classic car rally between two forest sections. Think of 70s Ford Escorts with noisy exhausts. Around 30 passed me along that lane but not one of them even offered to run me off the road. All drove exemplary.
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alexnharvey wrote:Although if they did they'd definitely be wearing a helmet cam whilst doing it.

I think Marcus is getting an overly hard time. If you knew a triathlon, running event or anything similar was using a route you'd probably avoid it for a leisurely cycle, run, trot or drive unless you'd no option. I certainly would.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. The cyclists can be in the wrong for their passing and especially for contact AND the horse rider can be a twit if they planned their ride through a race or saw signage and didn't think twice about the situation.


It was a bad situation, no one came out of it smelling of roses.
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Marcus Aurelius wrote:
alexnharvey wrote:Although if they did they'd definitely be wearing a helmet cam whilst doing it.

I think Marcus is getting an overly hard time. If you knew a triathlon, running event or anything similar was using a route you'd probably avoid it for a leisurely cycle, run, trot or drive unless you'd no option. I certainly would.

These two things are not mutually exclusive. The cyclists can be in the wrong for their passing and especially for contact AND the horse rider can be a twit if they planned their ride through a race or saw signage and didn't think twice about the situation.


It was a bad situation, no one came out of it smelling of roses.

Your opinion seems to differ from the majority of others.

I had a work colleague who was surprised to wake one day to find closed roads outside his new house (he’d moved there 10 months earlier) closed due to a very well established IronMan event taking place. He had been oblivious to the fact despite heavy publicity.

Why? Cycling, running etc was not on his radar, as it had absolutely no interest to him, so he unconsciously filter out what he saw as noise. Had a car rally been taking place on those same roads you could bet your house on him knowing and being very well prepared as motorsports were his world.

In this case I can believe the horse rider was unaware of the event. The rider still had every right to use the road as she would normally do. The horse was impeccably behaved only reacting to the one reckless cyclist who was quite rightly charged and appeared in court.
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