kwackers wrote:londoncommuter0000 wrote:I'm a practicing solicitor.
And you use the word "Diddums" in your responses?
Class.
And can't spell. It's practising.
kwackers wrote:londoncommuter0000 wrote:I'm a practicing solicitor.
And you use the word "Diddums" in your responses?
Class.
robing wrote:kwackers wrote:londoncommuter0000 wrote:I'm a practicing solicitor.
And you use the word "Diddums" in your responses?
Class.
And can't spell. It's practising.
pwa wrote:mjr wrote:But it's an excuse. We can no more stop all cyclists riding past red than all motorists, so we should neutralise this bad PR instead of fanning the flames by joining in the condemnation.
I don't know what it is like where you are, but around here, at major junctions, RLJing by motorists is almost always within a second of the lights going red. If it happens after that it is a cyclist. And it does promote the view of cyclists as rogue road users. People actually notice when a cyclist waits at a red light.
Just a little thought for you to consider.londoncommuter0000 wrote: ............. a cyclist who dismounts is no longer a cyclist ................. dispel any ambiguity.
thirdcrank wrote:londoncommuter0000
I've posted on another thread that your professional help would be of practical use next time somebody is prosecuted for this
viewtopic.php?p=1322114#p1322114
Mick F wrote:Just a little thought for you to consider.londoncommuter0000 wrote: ............. a cyclist who dismounts is no longer a cyclist ................. dispel any ambiguity.
I am a cyclist.
People know me as a cyclist.
I'm a cyclist, even though I'm sitting in my armchair typing this.
I'm a cyclist through and through.
What you meant to say, was that a cyclist who dismounts, is no longer riding a bicycle. He could still be described as a cyclist or a golfer or a fisherman or even a solicitor.
Also, if you are pushing a bike you are pushing a vehicle. What would you say about someone pushing a car through a red light?
Is he allowed to do that now he's no longer driving the car?
Mick F wrote:Just a little thought for you to consider.londoncommuter0000 wrote: ............. a cyclist who dismounts is no longer a cyclist ................. dispel any ambiguity.
I am a cyclist.
People know me as a cyclist.
I'm a cyclist, even though I'm sitting in my armchair typing this.
I'm a cyclist through and through.
What you meant to say, was that a cyclist who dismounts, is no longer riding a bicycle. He could still be described as a cyclist or a golfer or a fisherman or even a solicitor.
Also, if you are pushing a bike you are pushing a vehicle. What would you say about someone pushing a car through a red light?
Is he allowed to do that now he's no longer driving the car?
Mick F wrote:Just a little thought for you to consider.londoncommuter0000 wrote: ............. a cyclist who dismounts is no longer a cyclist ................. dispel any ambiguity.
I am a cyclist.
People know me as a cyclist.
I'm a cyclist, even though I'm sitting in my armchair typing this.
I'm a cyclist through and through.
What you meant to say, was that a cyclist who dismounts, is no longer riding a bicycle. He could still be described as a cyclist or a golfer or a fisherman or even a solicitor.
Also, if you are pushing a bike you are pushing a vehicle. What would you say about someone pushing a car through a red light?
Is he allowed to do that now he's no longer driving the car?
londoncommuter0000 wrote:thirdcrank wrote:londoncommuter0000
I've posted on another thread that your professional help would be of practical use next time somebody is prosecuted for this
viewtopic.php?p=1322114#p1322114
IIRC, I already posted on that thread.
The only precedent is for a person to push a bicycle across a pedestrian crossing, not pushing a vehicle along the road through a red light or junction ........... notwithstanding Mr Bean of course.londoncommuter0000 wrote:There is precedent in one case, but not the other. There's your answer.
londoncommuter0000 wrote:pwa wrote:Mick F wrote:I arrived at some temporary lights yesterday. Car coming towards me, my lights on red. I stopped and waited.
.................. and waited and waited .................
No traffic in either direction, so I went through on red.
As I left the other side, there was a lady and gent walking their dog. They said, "The lights don't work!"
I replied, "Just worked that out! "
We've all encountered stuck road works lights. The question is always "how long do I wait before I can assume it is stuck?"
When I'm 'stuck' at traffic lights that are either borked, or else where an induction loop is not being triggered because I'm on a carbon bike, I just dismount and walk.
Simple. And entirely legal.
mjr wrote:No, we don't. We will never get all road users to obey laws voluntarily and so it's an unreasonable condition to put on compliance. What we have to do is push for more enforcement and that it be proportionate.
pwa wrote:As far as I am concerned, if I am walking I am a pedestrian. Even if I am pushing a bike. I'd take no bull on that. I'd take it as far as I could if necessary, but nobody has ever challenged me on that.