Except Kings College Chapel, Cambridge perhaps (I have an egg in both camps )
Is Oxford Prison still open? It is/was by the road from Carfax/Quatre Foix to the station
Now Malmaison Hotel.
Except Kings College Chapel, Cambridge perhaps (I have an egg in both camps )
Is Oxford Prison still open? It is/was by the road from Carfax/Quatre Foix to the station
thelawnet wrote:My parents went through the grammar school system, and it worked quite well then, in that my grandparents were working class left school at 11, but had three children university educated including one at Oxford. But now it's just another game for the middle class to play.
NUKe wrote:My daughter is currently reading Maths at Oxford. She got there on her own merits, she was educated at the local comprehensive. I am of course very proud of her. Her friends are all from very different backgrounds, as she says she is two steps away from Boris Johnson, one of her friends mother was chatted up once by Boris and turned him down. Yes there is still wealth and privilege at Oxford, but they are changing. Its not surprising though that many are from Public schools, those school set out from day 1 to train their pupils for this path in life. its not the Public schools that should be stopped but the state ones that need to up there game. Both Oxford and Cambridge do outreach but often its too little too late. A friend of mine who had taught in both systems when asked why she thought the public schools did better she would say " confidence" they are brought up to think it is there right to succeed.
landsurfer wrote:I've been to Oxford and Cambridge ..... the're overrated !
Silly Punts .. all of them ....
Hobbs1951 wrote:What is wrong with elites ?
John.
Hobbs1951 wrote:What is wrong with elites ?
John.
Ben@Forest wrote:According to a R4 programme the other day the most likely determining factor in going to university is if your parents did.
Oldjohnw wrote:Ben@Forest wrote:According to a R4 programme the other day the most likely determining factor in going to university is if your parents did.
Interesting, given so many people are the first in a family to attend university.
nirakaro wrote:Hobbs1951 wrote:What is wrong with elites ?
John.
Wealth seeks political power, and uses the power to enhance its wealth, at the expense of others. The core purpose of democracy is to discourage this, and the strength of a democracy can be judged by how well it does so.
roubaixtuesday wrote:.......The issue with Oxbridge is not that it's academically elite, it's that it's *not* sufficiently academically elite but rather both deliberately and inadvertently socially elite. The UK, IMHO, suffers from not enough of the former and far too much of the latter......