Card of explanation.

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Card of explanation.

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Apr 2019, 8:50pm

After several encounters with drivers and others who asked why I was lidless, I have been thinking of printing out a list of the reasons why. I know some people will be the type who find logic and evidence difficult, and prefer to go with common beliefs. I trust some would take science seriously., and might follow up the references I would provide.
I would include Goldacre's and Spiegelhalter's editorial.
I would refer to the effects of compulsion laws down under.
I would point out that the countries where cycling is safe and popular are those where helmets are rare, but helmet wearing countries are nevertheless dangerous with few cyclists.

Do people think that a cards like this would be worthwhile?
I would need to take great care with the wording, I flatter myself that I have the verbal ability to do a reasonable job.
I would welcome advice and suggestions.

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby reohn2 » 21 Apr 2019, 9:13pm

I've never yet been told I should be wearing a helmet and I pity the first person who does,as my response will most likely end in off.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Apr 2019, 9:16pm

reohn2 wrote:I've never yet been told I should be wearing a helmet and I pity the first person who does,as my response will most likely end in off.


But if they asked nicely?

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Cunobelin » 21 Apr 2019, 9:19pm

People have no real idea..... I am on a trike, so explain that Trikes are exempt, just as with motorcycle helmets.

Never ever been challenged, even some of the MAMILS simply accept it

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Apr 2019, 9:36pm

Cunobelin wrote:People have no real idea....
Never ever been challenged, even some of the MAMILS simply accept it


I am thinking of two encounters in particular, neither was a challenge, but a polite question. They both assumed, as so many do, that whilst cycling one wears a helmet. They both listened to my explanation, which I made as well as I could impromptu, bur I feel that the occasions needed some more comprehensive and definitive.
Such cards could also be given to any behelmeted cyclists who showed interest.

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby reohn2 » 21 Apr 2019, 9:40pm

Mike Sales wrote:
reohn2 wrote:I've never yet been told I should be wearing a helmet and I pity the first person who does,as my response will most likely end in off.


But if they asked nicely?

Asking nicely will will get the response that I don't need one,followed by a question to them that if they drive or travel in a car they're statistically more likely to suffer a head injury than me as a cyclist,so do they wear a helmet when travelling in a car.

I spent almost all of my life not wearing a helmet,then seemed to drop into a habit of wearing one without really questioning it as it became 'part of the kit'.
Then about six years ago I read some of the science on the subject and rejected that part of 'the kit' as unnecessary.

If I were to ride a lot of off road terrain in wooded areas where there were a lot of overhanging branches,or if there were a lot of boulders or big rocks in techinical terrain,I would seriously consider wearing one again but until hen I won't.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Apr 2019, 9:43pm

reohn2 wrote:Asking nicely will will get the response that I don't need one,followed by a question to them that if they drive or travel in a car they're statistically more likely to suffer a head injury than me as a cyclist,so do they wear a helmet when travelling in a car.



One of the things I wished I had said was, "Why aren't you?"

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Lance Dopestrong » 21 Apr 2019, 9:45pm

I would print a card thats said, "mine your own chuffing business."

Its legal, does no one any harm, and you absolutely don't need to justify yourself to anyone.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby fastpedaller » 21 Apr 2019, 9:46pm

I like your idea. I've tried to explain on a couple of occasions by saying "what makes you think I should need one" to then (likely) be told "in case you're knocked off - you'll be protected with a helmet" to which I've responded with "Some drivers aren't as careful as you, and might think that if I'm better protected they can drive closer to me, which puts me in more danger of being knocked off - I'd prefer not to be knocked off whether I'm wearing a helmet or not!" This approach has (I think, and hope) made them think about it in more depth.

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby mjr » 21 Apr 2019, 9:53pm

I've posted http://mjr.towers.org.uk/proj/cyclynn/helmets to show I have considered them and made a rational, reasonable decision that one is safer without using and if anything bad happens to me, I was just unlucky, not negligent or ignorant.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Apr 2019, 9:58pm

Lance Dopestrong wrote:I would print a card thats said, "mine your own chuffing business."

Its legal, does no one any harm, and you absolutely don't need to justify yourself to anyone.

I know I don' t need to, and I can be as awkward as the next man, but I do feel that spreading accurate information can only be a good thing. Who knows, I might convince or at least provoke thought.

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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby gaz » 21 Apr 2019, 10:29pm

reohn2 wrote:I've never yet been told I should be wearing a helmet and I pity the first person who does,as my response will most likely end in off.

When appropriate and time will allow, I'll explain to those who ask why I choose not to wear one.

No amount of evidence will counter the anecdotes of those who know a helmet saved either their own, a close frined's or a complete stranger's life. Whilst trying to explain the comparitive risks I've even been told "well, you can prove anything with statistics".

In such circumstances "clear off" does save time.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Oldjohnw » 22 Apr 2019, 7:18am

I've only ever been 'told' to wear a helmet: by Mrs Oldjohnw.

Argument is futile. Logic is pointless. Evidence is irrelevant.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Paulatic » 22 Apr 2019, 8:09am

I’ve been asked 'where’s your helmet 'twice, both times by a cyclist I’ve met on the road.
The first time I was speechless I’d never met this sort of greeting before. The second time, just a couple of months ago, I was a little more prepared. After parting from her company I could think of even more to say so in both instances a card could be good. The recent lady worked in a hospital so she was full of anecdotal evidence.
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Re: Card of explanation.

Postby Mick F » 22 Apr 2019, 8:22am

Oldjohnw wrote:I've only ever been 'told' to wear a helmet: by Mrs Oldjohnw.

Argument is futile. Logic is pointless. Evidence is irrelevant.
This was me too back in 2004/5.
Resistance was pointless.

However, some few years ago, I lost all my hair - alopecia universalis - and my cycle helmet became uncomfortable. Not so uncomfortable that it hurt, but uncomfortable enough for me to labour the point and convince Mrs Mick F - and anyone else - that I wouldn't be wearing one again.

That was summer 2015, not worn one since. Even if my hair was to grow back, I still wouldn't wear one.
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