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Language pedants

Postby reohn2 » 24 Jun 2019, 2:09pm

I listened to Stephen Fry on the Jeremy Vine show at lunchtime.The man was spot on IMO when complained about the languag police that seem to infect social media these days.
I don't know if anyone heard it?
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Re: Language pedants

Postby mattheus » 24 Jun 2019, 2:40pm

I count just the one spelling and one grammar error in there for us to pick apart.

Can anyone do better?

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Re: Language pedants

Postby kwackers » 24 Jun 2019, 3:00pm

mattheus wrote:I count just the one spelling and one grammar error in there for us to pick apart.

Can anyone do better?

I reckon:
Language.
"seems to infect"
"when he complained"
"anyone else has" (although I'm disliking the whole construct of that sentence).

I'm more a language PCSO rather than fully paid up policeman though.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Mick F » 24 Jun 2019, 3:05pm

What I can't understand is why anyone wants to listen to JV's programme.
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Re: Language pedants

Postby pwa » 24 Jun 2019, 3:12pm

I like it when people get spelling, punctuation and all that stuff right, but I wouldn't let my distaste for inappropriate apostrophes prevent me reading what people have to say. I take my car to a garage with a misplaced apostrophe on the sign outside. It irritates me just a tiny bit, but the proprietor is a nice bloke who knows his stuff and does a good job. He gets the important things right. I don't go to him for good punctuation.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby kwackers » 24 Jun 2019, 3:34pm

pwa wrote:I like it when people get spelling, punctuation and all that stuff right, but I wouldn't let my distaste for inappropriate apostrophes prevent me reading what people have to say. I take my car to a garage with a misplaced apostrophe on the sign outside. It irritates me just a tiny bit, but the proprietor is a nice bloke who knows his stuff and does a good job. He gets the important things right. I don't go to him for good punctuation.

So you know him and the quality of his work.

What if you didn't though? What if you were looking for someone to do some work on your car and had a shortlist?
A shop sign is a bit like a CV to me, if they can't be bothered at that level...

Although I'd admit, a misplaced apostrophe on a garage sign isn't the end of the world and I'm not that bothered overall by folks written language - but if I'm struggling with their viewpoint I do sometimes find my opinion coloured somewhat if their English is poor...

Such is life. Just don't send me your CV without having it proof read first. ;)

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Re: Language pedants

Postby mattheus » 24 Jun 2019, 3:37pm

kwackers wrote:
mattheus wrote:I count just the one spelling and one grammar error in there for us to pick apart.

Can anyone do better?

I reckon:
Language.
"seems to infect"
"when he complained"
"anyone else has" (although I'm disliking the whole construct of that sentence).

I'm more a language PCSO rather than fully paid up policeman though.

Vigilante?

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Re: Language pedants

Postby Bez » 24 Jun 2019, 3:38pm

pwa wrote:I take my car to a garage with a misplaced apostrophe on the sign outside … I don't go to him for good punctuation.


Do you drive one of these? :)

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PS: what Mick F said.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby kwackers » 24 Jun 2019, 3:52pm

mattheus wrote:Vigilante?

Too much of a "sack full of doorknobs" connotation for me.
Although I always fancied myself as Judge Dredd - not easy on a bicycle though.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby reohn2 » 24 Jun 2019, 5:23pm

Mick F wrote:What I can't understand is why anyone wants to listen to JV's programme.

Radio 2 replaced the The Light program :wink:

BTW,I dislike him as much as the next man but occasionally there are some good topics.Today it provided a little fun listening to people trying defend BoJo.
And the topic by Stephen Fry on language pedants which the forum seems to have more than it's fair share it seems.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby fausto copy » 24 Jun 2019, 8:24pm

Was that your business or the Commer?

Sorry John, couldn't resist. :wink:

By the way, I was surprised to read your post about Stephen Fry as I thought he was a real stickler for correct English.
I used to enjoy his programmes all about the English language, various dialects and different connotations.
Is he now accepting compromised English for social media, as in abbreviations etc, when texting for instance.

I would have liked to have heard his comments but even if there's a chance of a repeat, sadly being a deaf old stone, it'd be no use for me. :roll:
And don't get me started on subtitles. :evil:

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Re: Language pedants

Postby kwackers » 24 Jun 2019, 9:31pm

Despite what I said above I don't usually have much of a problem with spelling, correctness of grammar etc - although either can 'trip' me up whilst reading.
The proviso is of course that I can actually understand the meaning behind the words.

There are two folk on here who off the top of my head often have me scratching my noggin trying to figure out exactly what it is they're talking about, my 'gut feeling' being it's often not what I think.

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Re: Language pedants

Postby philvantwo » 24 Jun 2019, 10:03pm

Jeremy vine, great show!
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Re: Language pedants

Postby Oldjohnw » 25 Jun 2019, 7:32am

Punctuation is hugely important. Without correct punctuation meanings can massively change.
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Re: Language pedants

Postby pwa » 25 Jun 2019, 8:01am

I would liken the the quality and precision of written English to the quality and precision of interior decorating. It is very satisfying when you see it done well, without blobs in the paintwork or inaccurate wallpapering, but when all is said and done it is not that important.