Cycling dead ends.

[tim-b]

Hi

Thats got a padded top on it hasn't it?

The BG saddle is padded, the Unica Nitor wasn't and very comfortable it was too... type 55 image I'd have one now if they were easily available; out of fashion but not a dead end to me at least
Regards
tim-b

[tim-b]

Hi

PS When will cycling helmets be declared a redundant dead end?

When 107 years old cyclists stop proving their worth? forum link
Regards
tim-b

[iandriver]

Hi

Thats got a padded top on it hasn't it?

The BG saddle is padded, the Unica Nitor wasn't and very comfortable it was too... type 55 image I'd have one now if they were easily available; out of fashion but not a dead end to me at least
Regards
tim-b

Think I'd want to heat it and mould it. Interesting to see it though.

[531colin]

Heres Johhny!
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cinelli-unicanitor-saddle/rp-prod54865
I rode these in the sixties....this re-write looks more like the original in the flesh than it does in this photo.
….but its lost those little perforations on the bit where your bum bones go....you know, the ones where the plastic fatigued and cracked, so the damned thing bit your bum when you sat on it.
Bought one some months ago in a fit of nostalgia, haven't ridden it yet.

[Mike Sales]

Turn indicators.
Stop lights.

[iandriver]

Heres Johhny!
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cinelli-unicanitor-saddle/rp-prod54865
I rode these in the sixties....this re-write looks more like the original in the flesh than it does in this photo.
….but its lost those little perforations on the bit where your bum bones go....you know, the ones where the plastic fatigued and cracked, so the damned thing bit your bum when you sat on it.
Bought one some months ago in a fit of nostalgia, haven't ridden it yet.

I suspect the one I had in the '70s was a cheap knockoff copy. The though of it still sends shudders up my spine.

[Sweep]

Heres Johhny!
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/cinelli-unicanitor-saddle/rp-prod54865
I rode these in the sixties....this re-write looks more like the original in the flesh than it does in this photo.
….but its lost those little perforations on the bit where your bum bones go....you know, the ones where the plastic fatigued and cracked, so the damned thing bit your bum when you sat on it.
Bought one some months ago in a fit of nostalgia, haven't ridden it yet.

I suspect the one I had in the '70s was a cheap knockoff copy. The though of it still sends shudders up my spine.

Yes I have seen such things and kinda wondered about that design - I favour simple cheapo plastic selle royal saddles. Great things.

But am rather concerned about Colin - after describing his earlier pain he seems to have paid for another round with his cruel mistress.

[bagpussctc]

Plagued by various production issues and a big fire. An enterprise that promised much.
Frank Kirk . Precision Competition . by rebalrid, on Flickr

Kirk 2 by rebalrid, on Flickr

[iandriver]

Plagued by various production issues and a big fire. An enterprise that promised much.
Frank Kirk . Precision Competition . by rebalrid, on Flickr

Kirk 2 by rebalrid, on Flickr

In fairness to that one, I think the UCI banning everything but traditional diamond shapes killed that sort of thing off. Although the Y frame doesn't seem so common in the MTB world any more.

[bagpussctc]

This Kirk precision stands proudly in our dining room . I have always admired the out of the box thinking .The concept of the design etc was new and as seen on "Tomorrows World" . I just reckon the odds were stacked againt Frank Kirk with this machine .
I think the TVM team rode an aluminium version back in the early 1990's ?
Wonder what a carbon fiber built one would ride like? Flex in the bottom bracket area ?

[bagpussctc]

Tubular tyres. Took a while, though.

No one has told me . I still have them on one of my rides . Mind you I pick the route with care.


The Cotter pin was cycling biggest dead end . Look how long it took to see the back of them . Price over quality

[zenitb]

Shorty mudguards...LOL!!!

Mind you I suppose the benefit of buying a bike like this is that you at least knew there was room for real ones

[iandriver]

This Kirk precision stands proudly in our dining room . I have always admired the out of the box thinking .The concept of the design etc was new and as seen on "Tomorrows World" . I just reckon the odds were stacked againt Frank Kirk with this machine .
I think the TVM team rode an aluminium version back in the early 1990's ?
Wonder what a carbon fiber built one would ride like? Flex in the bottom bracket area ?

The 1997 Pinarello TT bike http://www.pinarello.com/en/hall-of-fam ... an-ullrich there's a beast. The brake levers are an interesting choice.

[horizon]

I had what I think was called a Motor Roar when I was a child. I really thought they had disappeared but no:

https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-a ... gIrYPD_BwE

Hmm, I might get one though. Good for waiting at traffic lights.

[Brucey]

This Kirk precision stands proudly in our dining room....

best place for it IMHO. As a bike frame it was rather flexy, and wasn't as light as first billed once the thing had been made anywhere near durable enough. Anyone who has seen or used a Black & Decker Workmate Mk1 will have a strange sense of deja vu when regarding the Kirk frame; the reason for this is that the early type of workmate was made in the same way, i.e. from die castings. The castings even look similar in overall design; am I right in thinking that Kirk was involved in that development too?



After a fairly short period of time the workmate was changed to steel pressings, which bent when overloaded instead of snapping like a carrot.

The Kirk bike frame disappeared by 1995; not sure the UCI had anything to do with it?

Good on him for 'having a go' and all that but IMHO the design is inherently compromised by the limitations imposed by the method of manufacture, moreso than with most other methods of frame manufacture.

cheers