'Fraid I've been at it again and after far too much time spent musing I'm about 80% coming round to the location being the Singing Kettle at Lloc. If Foxyrider can confirm that the original photo
definitely shows a United Bus Stop plate attached to the pub/restaurant sign I'd probably change my mind back again but as it is, this is my line of thought:-
1) The various images appearing on Google seem mainly to be taken in the period up to the 60's/70's, the OP considers the original image was taken in the 30's.
2) The building's grounds and the pub sign show significant changes in the 30 year period that is probably covered by the images (bigger car park, altered forecourt area, changed/moved/removed sign, large garden created to east). The changes in the surroundings over the additional 50/60 year period to now will be even more significant.
3) The deciduous woodland to the east of the building seems much closer in some images of the actual building/garden than when viewed from McDonalds present site. The b&w images certainly suggest the garden stretches very close to the wooded area.
4)Street View now shows a field between the current McD eatery and the said woodland to the east which isn't evident from the earlier b&w images. That field is/has been for sale recently under a covenant that it isn't to be developed for a drive through "meat product" restaurant/takeaway. Interesting! I'd bet Mcd's bought the field as well as the site they currently occupy and I'd question whether the current building is actually built on the
exact location of the old Singing Kettle. Despite the plaque (which admittedly I've not seen) I'd bet that part of the original building and certainly the large eastern garden probably spread across the field that is currently next door. Of course, that's all conjecture but not totally without foundation (no pun intended there
) That throws a measure of doubt on the position of the photographer in the original image.
5) I was originally confused by the fact that in the OP image the visible edge of the road (seen behind the 2 left hand figures) appears to slope down from right to left but that was the effect of the tilted image in the OP and if that is taken into consideration the road does in fact seem to mirror the current gradient of the A5026 at that point.
6) Both the surrounding landscape generally and the rocks used ornamentally in the grounds do suggest a typical open country/limestone type location for the OP image which will narrow down the choice from the several Singing Kettle establishments identified on Google and elsewhere, notwithstanding the obvious rural location which precludes town properties such as the Settle one.
7) Over time the grounds of the property have altered sufficiently to cast doubt on the exact position and orientation of the photographer and subjects (even the signpost seems to have been resited or completely removed in some of the images) which, along with uncertainty as to the time of day and month of year of the original image, is for me sufficient to limit the usefulness of information gleaned from the shadows cast by the subjects.
Regarding the background views (broadly looking to the South/South East?) I'd suggest that doubt about the exact location of the property and hence the photographer, the direction of the camera and significant changes to the appearance of the landscape over time make it very difficult to make a definite decision either way. Google Earth and Street View now reveal large plantations of fast growing conifers on the background hills which probably originated in/shortly after WWII and which will have significantly altered the appearance of the skyline over the last 70/80 years. I feel the landscape of the area is the right type, the horizon broadly similar but I'd never expect it to match the 1930s photograph exactly and wouldn't discount the location on those grounds alone.
That's it, shoot me down by all means - I'm intrigued by this one !
Foxyrider can you comment on the United Bus sign (if only for my own peace of mind!)
Incidentally, I see the seemingly innocuous old A5026 running past the site of the old building was designated the most dangerous road in Wales in 2017. Picture here of the very spot we're considering:-
https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incom ... r-Lloc.jpg