In my opinion it'll be a landslide
If I remember correctly thats what you said about Corbyn winning the election
Al
In my opinion it'll be a landslide
al_yrpal wrote:In my opinion it'll be a landslide
If I remember correctly thats what you said about Corbyn winning the election
Al
al_yrpal wrote:Cunobelin wrote:Quick comparison....
356 out of 650 is a mandate
48 out of 59 isn't
53% of the vote for Brexit is the "Will of the People'
62% of the vote for remain is irrelevant
So long as we are clear on the math
How do you know that everyone who didn't vote Tory was a Remainer and that all Tories wanted to leave? Incorrect assumption. And it's Maths or are you in favour of even more Americanisms? You aren't clear and you are not proving anything. What is clear though is that voters liked the clarity and certainty guaranteed by an overwhelming vote for the Tories even in staunch Labour areas
Al
An associate membership could provide all the rights of full European citizenship, for example the right to freedom of movement, access to healthcare in the EU and the right to reside in EU member states. Following the reciprocal principle of “no taxation without representation”, these associate citizens would pay some form of annual membership fee directly into the EU budget. In return, EU associate citizens would be able to stand and vote in European elections via trans-national European lists, which we hope will replace the vacant seats of the 73 British MEPs who will be departing in 2019.
Cunobelin wrote:THe idea of individual EU status is an interesting conceptAn associate membership could provide all the rights of full European citizenship, for example the right to freedom of movement, access to healthcare in the EU and the right to reside in EU member states. Following the reciprocal principle of “no taxation without representation”, these associate citizens would pay some form of annual membership fee directly into the EU budget. In return, EU associate citizens would be able to stand and vote in European elections via trans-national European lists, which we hope will replace the vacant seats of the 73 British MEPs who will be departing in 2019.
One wonders if Scotland could use this as a "back door" to the EU
windmiller wrote:Cunobelin wrote:THe idea of individual EU status is an interesting conceptAn associate membership could provide all the rights of full European citizenship, for example the right to freedom of movement, access to healthcare in the EU and the right to reside in EU member states. Following the reciprocal principle of “no taxation without representation”, these associate citizens would pay some form of annual membership fee directly into the EU budget. In return, EU associate citizens would be able to stand and vote in European elections via trans-national European lists, which we hope will replace the vacant seats of the 73 British MEPs who will be departing in 2019.
One wonders if Scotland could use this as a "back door" to the EU
Spain will veto the membership of Scotland. I read somewhere that the EU plans to abolish the veto. This won't work out well for the weaker member states as the EU will use it to dismantle what little democracy remains and force feed its' programme of control and punishment to disobedient voices.
Mick F wrote:Exactly!al_yrpal wrote:Many many many Scots don't live in Scotland, and they have no say regarding the referendum.
I dont agree with that. IMO only the folk who actually live there have the right to make a decision about independence. Do you deny the many other nationalities choosing to live in Scotland a say? Lots of people have left Scotland where is the cutoff point? Can of worms...
Al
You said it was up to the Scots ............. it's up to the Scottish electorate, not the Scots.
It's just possible - unlikely, I agree - that all the Scottish electorate may not be Scottish at all!
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
Talking of chestnuts.
73% being dragged out of eu without their consent?
I'm not Einstein but surely those who couldn't be bothered to vote can't be counted can they!
re-joining the EU for the Scots, first the PM's consent, second if the Scots vote leave, next and last re-joining eu will be sometime after the Labour Party has pick themselves up and got back in line.
Oh I nearly forgot what was the currency Scotland intend to use if they ever become independent?
That's the question you need to pose first and get first minister to answer it!
Without it there will never be independence?
NATURAL ANKLING wrote:If indeed the UK leaving the EU has financial repercussions?