PH wrote:PH wrote:Carlton green wrote:If you have some then I’d quite like to see the data for such an assertion.
There's this thing called Google (Other search engines are available) if you type in something like "NHS staff working in the private sector" it'll create about 9,500,000 hits in around 0.40 seconds. Of which, from a quick glance, about a third will answer your question.
But as Oldjohnw asked, where did you think the staff came from?
Don't get me wrong, I have no dispute with any individual who finds their skills and talents are better rewarded by a private sector employer. I do have an issue with the private sector taking advantage of the training the NHS, the taxpayer, has forked out for - £70,000 to train a nurse from scratch, £479,000 for a general practitioner, and £725,000 to train a hospital consultant (2015 figures)
Did you go and look? I thought of your post when I read this
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -nhs-staff
Interesting article, I did pick up on the point about trying to talk to staff to understand why they were leaving. I’m not so certain about the training costs mentioned and those that work in such positions feel that they contribute a lot towards their education too. Whatever, the NHS really needs to work on retention and that includes listening to their staff and managing them with appropriate care.
IMHO The Guardian is, like virtually all papers, biased so I wasn’t surprised by the tone of the article. Personally I’d like to see very little in the way of Private Hospitals, although there will always be some exception my view is that basically they shouldn’t be needed.
I never did Google as suggested, this might seem strange but (and without wishing to be disagreeable) I’ve more trust in the repeated anecdotal evidence presented to me than what’s fed to me by the internet. As it happens I’ve also got casual acquaintance with two nurses who work in the Private System, both would have worked for an NHS Hospital instead but both can only offer a small number of family friendly hours and the NHS wouldn’t accommodate them whilst the Private Hospital did. Other ex-nurses that I’ve met over the years haven’t returned after career breaks because the NHS hoops and hurdles they are expected to jump through are OTT. A young chap I know was training to work in Operating Theatres. He go into his final year and then bailed out with exhaustion, his placements where here, there and everywhere at difficult times and he had no private transport; a bit of NHS Management support would have seen him complete his course. When he recovered from the burn out he enquired about restarting the third year but was told he’d have to restart from the beginning of year one - what an avoidable waste.
Yes, mine is just anecdotal information ... but I find it better to believe information presented to me by real people than to rely on Google.