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fake plastic £10 notes

Postby mercalia » 8 Jan 2020, 3:36pm

I was surprised to hear there are some. I was shown one in my local newsagent



I thought the day of the fake was supposed to be over.

The one I was shown was bronze at the top edge rather than silver where the crown is right of the £10, on the front.

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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Pastychomper » 9 Jan 2020, 1:29pm

Thanks for pointing this out, it is the first fake plastic note I've heard of but it was bound to happen sooner or later.

Switching to plastic put the Mint ahead in the arms race for a while, but a bit of plastic can only offer limited protection against forgery. Hopefully this will remind us all to be on our guard and not expect the magic plastic notes to protect us from frauds.

Hmm, why does the above sound familiar? :wink:
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Mick F » 9 Jan 2020, 4:24pm

Plastic notes eg?
Not the be-all-and-end-all of protection. :wink:

The new £1 coin is good perhaps.
The old one was forged seemingly endlessly, but the man on the street didn't care much, as he spent it regardless. Many not even knowing they had a forgery at all.

If you had a forged £10 note, and unknowingly spent it ............ does it matter to you personally?
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby mercalia » 9 Jan 2020, 5:06pm

Mick F wrote:Plastic notes eg?
Not the be-all-and-end-all of protection. :wink:

The new £1 coin is good perhaps.
The old one was forged seemingly endlessly, but the man on the street didn't care much, as he spent it regardless. Many not even knowing they had a forgery at all.

If you had a forged £10 note, and unknowingly spent it ............ does it matter to you personally?


if it gets rejected you would as you would be out a tenner. I suspect it is easier to detect a fake tenner than the old paper ones, with all the fancy colours effects and holograms. Doesnt take long ? I just ordered a cheap UV torch from ebay ( £2.30) to see the UV protection. Will take that with me every where in future, if it works & scan every plastic note I am given. You cant even trust atms. I think I mentioned a BBC story from up north ( Lancaster I think, building society) an atm gave out play money - even said play money on it ( can buy them on Ebay)

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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Mick F » 9 Jan 2020, 8:03pm

With the old £1 coins if they were detected, you'd be out a quid.
Considering the numbers out there, you could be out a tenner easily.

............. but you weren't.

it was estimated that as many as three per cent of the old round pounds were fake, representing £50 million of fake coinage in circulation in the UK


Nobody noticed ............................ other than the banks eventually.

£10 notes forged?
If I could make my own in sufficient numbers, I would.
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Postboxer » 9 Jan 2020, 10:13pm

The problem is spending them fast enough to make millions.

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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby mercalia » 9 Jan 2020, 10:38pm

Postboxer wrote:The problem is spending them fast enough to make millions.


you could always invest ( money launder) the fakes in OneCoin CryptoCurrency :twisted:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-50435014

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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby francovendee » 10 Jan 2020, 8:18am

Mick F wrote:Plastic notes eg?
Not the be-all-and-end-all of protection. :wink:

The new £1 coin is good perhaps.
The old one was forged seemingly endlessly, but the man on the street didn't care much, as he spent it regardless. Many not even knowing they had a forgery at all.

If you had a forged £10 note, and unknowingly spent it ............ does it matter to you personally?


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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Pastychomper » 10 Jan 2020, 10:44am

Mick F wrote:Nobody noticed ............................ other than the banks eventually.


Some people did. At least, the lead pounds became easy to spot after a while because the colour faded. I know a bus driver who rejected at least one on his round, and another (coin, not driver) ended up pinned to the noticeboard in a flat I once shared.
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Mick F » 10 Jan 2020, 2:05pm

If you can find one of the round £1 fakes, I reckon they'll be worth more than a quid now.
Maybe even two quid.

Should have stockpiled them! :D
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby al_yrpal » 10 Jan 2020, 2:17pm

I have 6 Falkland Islands round £s acquired on a visit there. They would accept UK round £s ok in the shop so I did a swap. I am wondering if they got new coinage with the faceted edge like us? If they didnt will they accept our new stuff and the plastic notes? Anyone been lately?

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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby Mick F » 10 Jan 2020, 2:20pm

Never made it ashore there, but bombarded the place with high explosives for weeks on end in 1982. :wink:
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Postby al_yrpal » 10 Jan 2020, 2:26pm

Glad I didnt go until 2008 then! :wink:
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Postby Audax67 » 10 Jan 2020, 2:51pm

Jesus wept: "Polymer is a thin and flexible plastic material." As any fule no, polymers are a whole class of organic chemicals. E.g. polyethylene glycol is a polymer used to treat constipation; d'you reckon they could print tenners on turds?
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Re: fake plastic £10 notes

Postby kwackers » 10 Jan 2020, 3:22pm

Audax67 wrote:d'you reckon they could print tenners on turds?

Don't see why not, seen a few people polish them up in my time.