Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
I have a cyclocross bike that has already seen me through some tours, however, I find the compact chainring is sometimes not geared low enough and I'm also growing increasingly frustrated with the lack of support for 10 speed shifters / components now that Shimano's road components have moved-on to 11.
It seems like the T6000 and T8000 groupsets might be worth considering, but they seem quite hard to find. They seem to be slightly modified versions of the M series mountain versions, so a few questions:
- Curious if touring cyclists have had much luck finding and using the T6000 or T8000 series components?
- Or do people use the M6000 / M8000 mountain bike components as these seem to be easier to find?
- Are these cross-compatible from T series to M series equivalents?
- Any appreciable difference in quality from the 6000 series to 8000 series components?
- Is there any reason these would not be compatible with a 10 speed road bike setup (cyclocross frame)? (Assuming I switch out the complete groupset).
Thanks.
EDIT - the cyclocross is of a pre-disc-brake vintage and has previously been modified to a flat-top handlebar.
It seems like the T6000 and T8000 groupsets might be worth considering, but they seem quite hard to find. They seem to be slightly modified versions of the M series mountain versions, so a few questions:
- Curious if touring cyclists have had much luck finding and using the T6000 or T8000 series components?
- Or do people use the M6000 / M8000 mountain bike components as these seem to be easier to find?
- Are these cross-compatible from T series to M series equivalents?
- Any appreciable difference in quality from the 6000 series to 8000 series components?
- Is there any reason these would not be compatible with a 10 speed road bike setup (cyclocross frame)? (Assuming I switch out the complete groupset).
Thanks.
EDIT - the cyclocross is of a pre-disc-brake vintage and has previously been modified to a flat-top handlebar.
Last edited by songololo on 1 Feb 2020, 6:05pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
Do you have disc brakes or cantlivers?
Super compact chainsets exist that you can swap out for tours if you have a screw in bottom bracket.
Something like a Sora triple would be a good choice. 34t on the back and you can swap the inner ring down to a 26t.
Need to know more about the current bike and your braking requirements really.
Super compact chainsets exist that you can swap out for tours if you have a screw in bottom bracket.
Something like a Sora triple would be a good choice. 34t on the back and you can swap the inner ring down to a 26t.
Need to know more about the current bike and your braking requirements really.
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Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
I have existing cantilever breaks that I would like to keep and a flat top handlebar with a simple brake pull lever.
Part of the motivation for making a change now is that I have a broken (flat-bar style) shifter and it is becoming very difficult to find replacement 10 speed road shifters that don't cost over £100. So I'd rather spend the money converting to a drivetrain that will be easier and cheaper to maintain in future.
Part of the motivation for making a change now is that I have a broken (flat-bar style) shifter and it is becoming very difficult to find replacement 10 speed road shifters that don't cost over £100. So I'd rather spend the money converting to a drivetrain that will be easier and cheaper to maintain in future.
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
Curious if touring cyclists have had much luck finding and using the T6000 or T8000 series components?
- Or do people use the M6000 / M8000 mountain bike components as these seem to be easier to find?
When I googled T6000 so see what it was the Bike Radar review said T6000 and M6000 were interchangable.
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/touring- ... -groupset/
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
Yes, i am somewhat confusd by the shimano T and M prefixes.
Anyone got the final word on the issue?
Anyone got the final word on the issue?
Sweep
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
Sweep wrote:Yes, i am somewhat confusd by the shimano T and M prefixes.
Anyone got the final word on the issue?
I am not sure if this is what you are asking about but T stands for Trekking or Touring and M for Mountain biking.
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
rotavator wrote:Sweep wrote:Yes, i am somewhat confusd by the shimano T and M prefixes.
Anyone got the final word on the issue?
I am not sure if this is what you are asking about but T stands for Trekking or Touring and M for Mountain biking.
I meant in terms of what they actually are - their qualities.
Are you saying that it's just diferential marketing labelling?
I had twigged that the M meant mountain and T trekking.
Though of course the distinction is complicated/fogged since touring cyclists have long used mountain bike bits.
So are they MTBing or trekking?
Sweep
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
It's easy to misunderstand this from a UK viewpoint where tourers look much like racing bikes. The trekking groupsets are made for the German-style touring bike, with 700c wheels and flat or butterfly bars.
OK, they are broadly the same as MTB but with larger chainrings.
OK, they are broadly the same as MTB but with larger chainrings.
Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
The T series seems remarkably hard to find. The M series is easier to find but the chainrings are probably a bit too small for touring.
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Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
T8000 (XT) and T6000 (Deore) trekking bits can be found on the German retailers - Bike 24 and Bike discount de de: chain rings are bigger (smallest rings are normally 26) than the MTB equiverlent and chain guards are fitted.
Full groupsets haven’t been available for a while.
Full groupsets haven’t been available for a while.
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Re: Which groupset for cyclocross to touring conversion
XT trekking triple:
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/shi ... 5mm-528853
While good quality, too expensive for me.
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/shi ... 5mm-528853
While good quality, too expensive for me.
Raleigh Randonneur 708 (Magura hydraulic brakes); Blue Raleigh Randonneur 708 dynamo; Pearson Compass 631 tourer; Dawes One Down 631 dynamo winter bike;Raleigh Travelogue 708 tourer dynamo; Kona Sutra; Trek 920 disc Sram Force.