Alternatives to Tern Vektron?

[Wanlock Dod]

Can anybody recommend anything that would be a good alternative to one of them?

[reohn2]

Assuming the fold is needed I think you'll struggle,if you don't need the bike to fold have you looked at the Reis & Muller Tinker.

[hemo]

Are you solely looking at crank drives ?

[rbrian]

Before I bought my Tern Vektron, I looked (online) at the Riese and Muller Tinker, and a couple more I don't remember which aren't available any more, and I can't find with a web search, so they're probably not being made. There are thousands of big wheel electric bikes, but far fewer small wheel ones - and they're mostly too cheap, like Halfords specials, or have minimal luggage capacity, like the Gocycle.

Tern split off from Dahon, who specialise in small wheel folders, and the influence is clear. Riese and Muller make it quite hard to find the Tinker on their website, and I've never seen one in person. I'd have liked to try the vario gearing, but the only shop in Aberdeen that sells them couldn't get one in for me to try.

I'm very happy with my Vektron S10. I love the way it rides, the chunky Big Apple tyres roll easily over anything, it easily fits in my living room, can carry everything I need, and at a push can just about fit in a car boot (I have a Brompton for when I need a small fold). Why exactly are you looking for an alternative?

[Wanlock Dod]

I’m after something that can be taken on a train without booking, including intercity type ones. Is likely to be OK to ride for distances of up to about 40 km. Capable of distances of about 60 to 80 km on a single charge in ordinarily hilly terrain (~10 m climb per km).
Additional benefits that the Vektron seems to have are suitability for a range of different riders, and decent luggage carrying capacity.

So far I haven’t seen anything else that might be able to do all of these, but I would like to be sure before I commit to an expensive purchase.

[UpWrong]

Wisper 806?
https://wisperbikes.com/product-category/e-bikes/folding-ebikes/

[rbrian]

I’m after something that can be taken on a train without booking, including intercity type ones. Is likely to be OK to ride for distances of up to about 40 km. Capable of distances of about 60 to 80 km on a single charge in ordinarily hilly terrain (~10 m climb per km).
Additional benefits that the Vektron seems to have are suitability for a range of different riders, and decent luggage carrying capacity.

So far I haven’t seen anything else that might be able to do all of these, but I would like to be sure before I commit to an expensive purchase.

Going on trains without booking depends on the train company's policy, how their staff enforce it, and how busy it is. Really only a Brompton in a bag is a safe bet - the Vektron folds to about twice the volume, and is much more awkward, the same as most 20" wheel folders. I have taken mine on a train once, but it had a free bike space, so I didn't even try to fold it.

The adjustability is mostly about the Andros stem, which isn't exclusive to Tern, and can be bought separately and fitted to many bikes. The luggage capacity is excellent, and as far as I can tell unique amongst folders - they use their own rack design.

It's tricky to find one perfect bike for all uses - that's why I have two. And if I had a garage, or a shed, or a larger living room, I'd probably have more.

[Wanlock Dod]

I am working on the assumption that once in a bag it will just count as luggage, and presumably won’t be any bigger than a large suitcase.

I am not looking for one bike to do everything, but I am looking for something to replace some of my car journeys.