"Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
"Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Guardian coverage:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/21/welsh-planners-turn-down-cycle-cafe-for-lack-of-car-parking-spaces
The application, comments and recommendation:
http://moderngov.torfaen.gov.uk/documents/s45307/19-P-0437-FUL%20Final%20Committee%20Report.pdf
and the notice:
https://planningonline.torfaen.gov.uk/online-applications/files/285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93/pdf/19_P_0437_FUL-FUL_REFUSAL_DECISION_NOTICE-143069.pdf
Jonathan
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/21/welsh-planners-turn-down-cycle-cafe-for-lack-of-car-parking-spaces
The application, comments and recommendation:
http://moderngov.torfaen.gov.uk/documents/s45307/19-P-0437-FUL%20Final%20Committee%20Report.pdf
and the notice:
https://planningonline.torfaen.gov.uk/online-applications/files/285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93/pdf/19_P_0437_FUL-FUL_REFUSAL_DECISION_NOTICE-143069.pdf
Jonathan
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Hmm - the refusal document is 'unavailable at this time' - Does that really mean 'we don't want people to see it' or 'we're looking for other words of explanation, but will still refuse'???
laughable - If it wasn't so serious.
laughable - If it wasn't so serious.
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Just checked again... works for me.
Jonathan
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
That's weird..... I get this
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Discouraging TDC the tragedy of drive-cycling, +1!
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this
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i'm now getting that too.
Jonathan
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
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(Resolution limited by this site, but it's a bit better if you open the image in a new tab.)
Jonathan
(Resolution limited by this site, but it's a bit better if you open the image in a new tab.)
Jonathan
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
where does it say it is a cycle cafe?
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
That's one of the points that interested me. It's not prominent in the application, although it is mentioned in the correspondence.
Jonathan
Jonathan
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this
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The 285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93 in the link is a session code and expires. You have to follow the link to it from the planning application documents page. It's a stupid bug and hinders discussions of applications but lots of councils still use that system.
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Thanks for the explanation.
Jonathan
Jonathan
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
mjr wrote:fastpedaller wrote:That's weird..... I get this
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The 285CBD1A85125126ABFB2D11DE79DB93 in the link is a session code and expires. You have to follow the link to it from the planning application documents page. It's a stupid bug and hinders discussions of applications but lots of councils still use that system.
Not a bug at all, you just need to provide the link to the place where people can agree to sell their soul for a peek at the document.
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
Hi
The officer's report states 24% ramblers, bikers and fishermen. The application also uses "bike"
Maybe an additional proportion of pedal cyclists and women who fish? Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit, although there is one locally to me who cycles towing a trailer
Regards
tim-b
The officer's report states 24% ramblers, bikers and fishermen. The application also uses "bike"
Maybe an additional proportion of pedal cyclists and women who fish? Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit, although there is one locally to me who cycles towing a trailer
Regards
tim-b
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Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
tim-b wrote:Hi
The officer's report states 24% ramblers, bikers and fishermen. The application also uses "bike"
Maybe an additional proportion of pedal cyclists and women who fish? Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit, although there is one locally to me who cycles towing a trailer
Regards
tim-b
I fly fish and often do so by bike, 18 miles each way to a stillwater. I have a choice of three. The river is a mile away. I am a minimalist angler.
John
Re: "Welsh planners turn down cycle cafe for lack of car parking spaces"
tim-b wrote:Anglers IME drive because of the amount of kit
Indeed, but this is already an angler's destination, so I'd assume their parking to be a different matter. The proposal isn't likely to increase the traffic from anglers.
On the face of it, it seems an extraordinary rejection, hopefully it will be appealed and given more consideration.