hamish wrote:Firstly, in my opinion, telling people that they aren't progressive, etc just because you don't agree with them isn't the most productive way of debating the issue. Your experience of the issue may vary significantly from others and they may see your in instance on the deregulation of ebikes as counterproductive in terms of progressive transport policy.
Nothing to do with not agreeing with them, merely observation of this forum for the many years I've been a member.
*ANY* attempt at change is met with resistance.
The ebike thread a few years ago was a good example and yet now quite a few folk on here seem to have one.
You can pick almost any change and unless it's simplistic and unrealistic then you can expect a lot of resistance.
hamish wrote:A legal 250W ebike motor can peak at significantly more than the nominal average 250. My cargo bike would continue on well into 25mph territory without a cut off. I know that because I can pedal it up to 20 + mph with ease in the flat. Give it the 350% assist and it would fly.
350% assist - 1KW?
Or am I missing something? Mine struggles "under it's own power" to get to 20mph with the cutoff disabled.
hamish wrote:The argument about cut off above 15.5 doesn't convince me either as the cutoff is soft, with the assist facing out gradually .
I don't really see how you can claim that.
At what speed does your cutoff start?
10mph?
Realistically the cutoff will start at very close to the max it has and at best it might continue slightly over. A couple of mph at best *unless* it begins much earlier - but what would be the point of an ebike that starts reducing power almost as soon as it was rolling?
That said it would be nice round curve.
I regularly take my bike over 20mph using my legs, up to 15mph the combination of me and it accelerate it very nicely and then suddenly it weighs a ton. Happens easily within 1 or 2 mph.
hamish wrote:I feel that, on our current infrastructure, allowing fast ebikes on the cycle paths would put as many people off as it encourages.
Not long ago the common opinion on here was that allowing ebikes on cycle paths would do exactly the same. Did it? Have ebikes put people off?
If that wasn't true then why should the same assertion be true now?
Anyway like I said, "lack of imagination".
Instead of thinking of reasons as to why it can't happen, try imagining ways that it can.
That's what progressive means. Ignore conservatism and look for a way forward.