Syd wrote:Case numbers will rise, as will hospital admissions, as will deaths if that it done.That is doubtful at best.The total opposite of what is actually happening
Are you saying that true case numbers aren't increasing at the moment?
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Jonathan
PS: Using colours like that in others' quotes is vey confusing. After one further quote it becomes impossible to see who said what.
Syd wrote: The lockdown brought those numbers into controllable levels. Absolutely no evidence to suggest this.
What are you suggesting? We let everyone now run around as if nothing has happened? After all there is only 4 people in hospital at present? Yes that makes perfect sense and is exactly what needs to happen
Case numbers will rise, as will hospital admissions, as will deaths if that it done.That is doubtful at best.The total opposite of what is actually happening
You are merely falling for the continued fearmongering being spread by the media.
Come and do my job for a day and then say it is still fearmongerimg.
Syd wrote: The lockdown brought those numbers into controllable levels. Absolutely no evidence to suggest this.
What are you suggesting? We let everyone now run around as if nothing has happened? After all there is only 4 people in hospital at present? Yes that makes perfect sense and is exactly what needs to happen
Case numbers will rise, as will hospital admissions, as will deaths if that it done.That is doubtful at best.The total opposite of what is actually happening
You are merely falling for the continued fearmongering being spread by the media.
Come and do my job for a day and then say it is still fearmongerimg.
What is your job?
'Give me my bike, a bit of sunshine - and a stop-off for a lunchtime pint - and I'm a happy man.' - Reg Baker
pwa wrote:C19 deaths have been kept so low by severely restricting personal freedom and by crippling businesses. Without those extraordinary measures, which have a heavy cost, the number of dead would be several times higher. You and I have not seen what Covid 19 would have done, and might still do, without those measures. I agree that C19 mortality is very low right now. If it did not have the potential to increase greatly it would indeed be just one of the numerous ways to die.
So low? Britain has the highest number of deaths in Europe. It's over four times that of Germany. Admittedly Germany is a richer and more advanced nation but not vastly more so. What it does have is an able and competent leader. She also has a doctorate in Chemistry so is well able to understand the science behind the fight against C19.
'Give me my bike, a bit of sunshine - and a stop-off for a lunchtime pint - and I'm a happy man.' - Reg Baker
pwa wrote:C19 deaths have been kept so low by severely restricting personal freedom and by crippling businesses. Without those extraordinary measures, which have a heavy cost, the number of dead would be several times higher. You and I have not seen what Covid 19 would have done, and might still do, without those measures. I agree that C19 mortality is very low right now. If it did not have the potential to increase greatly it would indeed be just one of the numerous ways to die.
So low? Britain has the highest number of deaths in Europe. It's over four times that of Germany. Admittedly Germany is a richer and more advanced nation but not vastly more so. What it does have is an able and competent leader. She also has a doctorate in Chemistry so is well able to understand the science behind the fight against C19.
"So low" in comparison to what it would have been without extraordinary measures. I agree that had we had the testing capacity Germany already had at the start, we could have done better. But you start from where you are, not where you would like to be.
pwa wrote:C19 deaths have been kept so low by severely restricting personal freedom and by crippling businesses. Without those extraordinary measures, which have a heavy cost, the number of dead would be several times higher. You and I have not seen what Covid 19 would have done, and might still do, without those measures. I agree that C19 mortality is very low right now. If it did not have the potential to increase greatly it would indeed be just one of the numerous ways to die.
So low? Britain has the highest number of deaths in Europe. It's over four times that of Germany. Admittedly Germany is a richer and more advanced nation but not vastly more so. What it does have is an able and competent leader. She also has a doctorate in Chemistry so is well able to understand the science behind the fight against C19.
Chemistry isn't the same as epidemiology or virology. Next you'll be saying Boris knows about African history / culture because he's a classics scholar.
What is it about people's relationship with STEM that they keep lumping them all in together?
pete75 wrote:So low? Britain has the highest number of deaths in Europe. It's over four times that of Germany. Admittedly Germany is a richer and more advanced nation but not vastly more so. What it does have is an able and competent leader. She also has a doctorate in Chemistry so is well able to understand the science behind the fight against C19.
Chemistry isn't the same as epidemiology or virology.
Sure, but there's a body of reasoning that is highly consistent across science: numeracy, statistical analysis, evidence-based methods etc.
Tangled Metal wrote: It's certainly not the same as ordinary flu in that respect.
It's not even a flu, it's got much more in common with the common cold but much more deadly if your immune system reacts to it in a certain way. Trouble is you won't know how your system reacts until you get it. A vaccine is hard to manufacture and test.
