Ginnels, and snickets

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Mick F » 4 Oct 2020, 8:48am

Back in Wigan when I woz a kid, we called them "entries". Mrs Mick F is a Scouser, and she called them "allies" or "passage-ways".

Neither me nor Mrs Mick F had heard the word "ginnell' until we moved to Scotland.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby De Sisti » 4 Oct 2020, 9:32am

As a kid in 1960s Manchester they were called Entries, or sometimes Alleys.

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Tim Holman » 4 Oct 2020, 10:07am

Some of you will know Pennel's Vennel in Peebles. So named after George Pennel who ran the bike shop there for many years and the haunt of many young cyclists through the sixties, seventies and onwards.

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby squeaker » 4 Oct 2020, 11:44am

'Twittens' round here.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby BeardyWeirdy » 4 Oct 2020, 1:37pm

"Jitty" in Leicester

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby pete75 » 4 Oct 2020, 1:46pm

Called a padd where I grew up.

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby JohnW » 4 Oct 2020, 2:23pm

I'm in Halifax, in West Yorkshire.
The traditions that I've been brought up with have been :
Ginnel - being a footpath between walls - not necessarily walls between buildings, walls to each-side of a footpath can be between fields.
Snicket - being a footpath open on one side with wall/hedge etc on other side, or open both sides.

But these things are never 100% - a footpath quite near where I live has a high wall down one side, a 6'0" hedge on most of the other side, with house gable-ends at each end, and it's called the 'brickyard'!......and a lot of open footpaths are just 'footpaths'.

Where open footpaths have been fenced on one or both sides, we still call them footpaths........fences don't count as walls.

Some of the "comer-ins" in the new houses use other words for some footpaths, like 'passage'.............but they're not from here! - and they can't walk anyway, they live in cars!

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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby foxyrider » 4 Oct 2020, 2:37pm

i grew up in Northamptonshire, where any narrow, urban route was an alley, whether big enough for a car or barely wide enough to walk through.

For the last forty years i've lived in Sheffield Jennel, Ginel or however you want to spell it, is the term used for the same thing but not exclusively, certainly once motor traffic uses same it is referred to more usually as a lane.

The York Snickelways are a little different to the run of the mill alleys as they are (mostly) public thoroughfares providing access to shops and premises with no other access having been built between streets. I'm sure you can find similar in other medieval cities/towns but maybe in less profussion.

I'm in Bristol atm where the paths between houses seem to be referred to as simply the lane or alley
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Oldjohnw » 4 Oct 2020, 3:52pm

We also have Wynds in Northumberland. Not quite the same as vennels which go between buildings, Wynds are narrow dog leg lanes.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby TrevA » 4 Oct 2020, 5:00pm

sjs wrote:
Rod Goodfellow wrote:In Sheffield in 1940s known as a jennel


East Midlands, or at least Derby/Nottingham area, they're gitties.


I beg to disagree, as a born and bred Nottingham lad, they were always known as twitchels.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby eileithyia » 4 Oct 2020, 5:44pm

Alley or Entry where I grew up.
Along with Batches; an individual round of bread used for a sandwich, but have had to get used to; roll, cob, barm cake, over the years.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Mick F » 4 Oct 2020, 6:00pm

eileithyia wrote:Alley or Entry where I grew up.
Seems right to me, being a Wigan chap.

Dad was Wigan by history and heritage. Mum was from Coppull history and heritage.
Bought up in Wigan/Sandish.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby Slowroad » 4 Oct 2020, 8:28pm

Nottingham - jitties!
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby eileithyia » 5 Oct 2020, 8:27am

Mick F wrote:
eileithyia wrote:Alley or Entry where I grew up.
Seems right to me, being a Wigan chap.

Dad was Wigan by history and heritage. Mum was from Coppull history and heritage.
Bought up in Wigan/Sandish.


'Cept I was brought up in the Midlands not Wigan/Standish.

PS You would hate to see the state of the Robin Hood these days... boarded up and very unloved looking.
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Re: Ginnels, and snickets

Postby sjs » 5 Oct 2020, 8:54am

TrevA wrote:
sjs wrote:
Rod Goodfellow wrote:In Sheffield in 1940s known as a jennel


East Midlands, or at least Derby/Nottingham area, they're gitties.


I beg to disagree, as a born and bred Nottingham lad, they were always known as twitchels.


That's interesting. I see there's a vote for gitty/jitty upthread from Leicester. Maybe in the Nottingham/Derby area gitty was more ocal to Ilkeston than I thought.