Did you clap this time round - or last time?
- simonineaston
- Posts: 8063
- Joined: 9 May 2007, 1:06pm
- Location: ...at a cricket ground
Did you clap this time round - or last time?
Annemarie Plas' initiative might have worked OK last time, back when it was warmer and lighter at 8pm, but now it just feels rather patronising at best and at worst, a display of thoroughly nauseating disengenous paper-thin public relations. What these people want, I suspect, is full staffing levels, a guaranteed supply of effective ppe, decent wages, patient numbers slowing to a trickle, on account of an effective & well-run vaccination campaign and lastly, a bloody good rest. No amount of hand-clapping is going to substitute for that lot.
S
(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
From the beginning I thought it was cringeworthy and akin to something David Brent would think up.
The older I get the more I’m inclined to act my shoe size, not my age.
-
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: 27 Oct 2012, 9:13pm
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
peetee wrote:From the beginning I thought it was cringeworthy and akin to something David Brent would think up.
+1 .... no and no ...
“Quiet, calm deliberation disentangles every knot.”
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
landsurfer wrote:peetee wrote:From the beginning I thought it was cringeworthy and akin to something David Brent would think up.
+1 .... no and no ...
+2
-----------------------------------------------------------
"All we are not stares back at what we are"
W H Auden
"All we are not stares back at what we are"
W H Auden
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
+3reohn2 wrote:+2
I think that after the first week or so it became just embarrassing for the recipients.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
I did a couple of times the first time round, and going out and hearing the sound of clapping from unseen neighbours all around the village was moving. It was a community coming together, expressing what we, together, think is important. Doing my own key worker job I had a few people clap as I did my job, for which I thanked them, but at the same time I found it embarrassing and was glad to get away. Yesterday I was suffering from a bit of a cold (just a cold, nothing more) so I didn't go out, but my wife and daughter did.
We personally know several hospital workers of various sorts and they have been working their socks off since March. My son is also a student nurse and a grumpy bloke we know made a point of walking over to him to tell him that NHS staff are paid to do a job and aren't heroes or anything special. That was his response to the start of the clapping thing last year. My son, at the time, was looking after covid patients unpaid, a part of his training.
We personally know several hospital workers of various sorts and they have been working their socks off since March. My son is also a student nurse and a grumpy bloke we know made a point of walking over to him to tell him that NHS staff are paid to do a job and aren't heroes or anything special. That was his response to the start of the clapping thing last year. My son, at the time, was looking after covid patients unpaid, a part of his training.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
Neither then nor now.
One thing that has troubled me about it is when you see all those people outside clapping all I can think is that a significant proportion of those clappers only recently voted for a party with a long term track record of NHS cuts, resource cuts, pay freeze/cuts, etc. for the very group they are now clapping for. I'd feel far happier giving those being recognised and clapped a pay rise or maybe some PPE to protect them in their work helping us, or enough staff to do the job (without long term ludicrous hours, fatigue), etc. Then when politicians who make those pay cuts, resource restrictions and cuts, etc. start clapping all I can see is hypocrisy.
Ian
One thing that has troubled me about it is when you see all those people outside clapping all I can think is that a significant proportion of those clappers only recently voted for a party with a long term track record of NHS cuts, resource cuts, pay freeze/cuts, etc. for the very group they are now clapping for. I'd feel far happier giving those being recognised and clapped a pay rise or maybe some PPE to protect them in their work helping us, or enough staff to do the job (without long term ludicrous hours, fatigue), etc. Then when politicians who make those pay cuts, resource restrictions and cuts, etc. start clapping all I can see is hypocrisy.
Ian
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
At 8pm the shift at the Care Home where my wife was adjacent to my house finished and the staff walked past whilst we all clapped. They really appreciated it.
My wife worked as an NHS nurse all her life, We deeply appreciated the Care the staff in the home gave and I was pleased that our appreciation gave them a boost.
I agree that NHS nursing staff are underpaid whilst in my opinion senior doctors and managers are overpaid.
Whatever, I was pleased to be able to show all the folk in the NHS and other services my appeciation.
Al
My wife worked as an NHS nurse all her life, We deeply appreciated the Care the staff in the home gave and I was pleased that our appreciation gave them a boost.
I agree that NHS nursing staff are underpaid whilst in my opinion senior doctors and managers are overpaid.
Whatever, I was pleased to be able to show all the folk in the NHS and other services my appeciation.
Al
Reuse, recycle, thus do your bit to save the planet.... Get stuff at auctions, Dump, Charity Shops, Facebook Marketplace, Ebay, Car Boots. Choose an Old House, and a Banger ..... And cycle as often as you can......
-
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: 27 Oct 2012, 9:13pm
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
Your not clapping for the NHS ... your clapping for the NCS ...
“Quiet, calm deliberation disentangles every knot.”
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
I think the need to clap is partly down to the fact that at this time of global emergency, all that most people can do to help is to do nothing, to stay indoors and watch the telly. While that is going on there are other people out there in the thick of it, struggling in dire circumstances. Clapping and other expressions of appreciation are a way of connecting. On the admittedly few occasions I clapped, I thought of the care home staff I knew who spent weeks living in the care home, sleeping in corridors rather than going home at the end of the shift, because they were afraid of bringing the virus into the care home. They never heard me clap for them, but I did it anyway.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
When you see a crowd of people in close proximity to each other but clapping you wonder if they have a clue.
John
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
As an NHS worker
No and no.
No and no.
-
- Posts: 36780
- Joined: 9 Jan 2007, 2:44pm
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
First time round, the clincher for me was seeing Boris Johnson out clapping. A mixture of nerve and opportunism. IMO.
-
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: 27 Oct 2012, 9:13pm
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
Loved the reports of <FFE> turning up for a photo opportunity at a GP's to see the vaccine rolled out and non was available .... The sound of one hand clapping could be heard around the country ...
Last edited by Graham on 9 Jan 2021, 10:49am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: FFE - family-friendly edit. Please avoid the clever/rude wisecracks.
Reason: FFE - family-friendly edit. Please avoid the clever/rude wisecracks.
“Quiet, calm deliberation disentangles every knot.”
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Be more Mike.
The road goes on forever.
Re: Did you clap this time round - or last time?
The first time round I didn’t want to be the only person in the street not clapping but this time I didn’t want to be the only person who was clapping.