Boris's Brain is missing

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Just seen Johnson on the news using the exact same script as for the early days of denying parties except "party" replaced with "blackmail". I can see by next week the script will have developed to "Nobody told me take holding families and children hostage was kidnapping ...".

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Jdsk wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:06am
Jdsk wrote: 14 Sep 2021, 3:09pm
Psamathe wrote: 10 Mar 2021, 12:26pm I see Johnson is re-activating his bridge/tunnel Scotland to NI again.
Abandoned:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... plans-axed
"Northern Ireland to Scotland bridge plans scrapped":
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707

Is scrapped different from abandoned?

And plans rather overstates how far this ever got.
Study cost £900k. Could have been a lot worse.
https://www.itv.com/news/border/2022-01 ... ayers-900k

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Jdsk wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 9:22pm
Jdsk wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:06am
"Northern Ireland to Scotland bridge plans scrapped":
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707

Is scrapped different from abandoned?

And plans rather overstates how far this ever got.
Study cost £900k. Could have been a lot worse.
https://www.itv.com/news/border/2022-01 ... ayers-900k

Jonathan
£900,000 could have helped our many food banks quite a lot.

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Psamathe wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 9:32pm
Jdsk wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 9:22pm
Jdsk wrote: 22 Nov 2021, 12:06am
"Northern Ireland to Scotland bridge plans scrapped":
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59368707

Is scrapped different from abandoned?

And plans rather overstates how far this ever got.
Study cost £900k. Could have been a lot worse.
https://www.itv.com/news/border/2022-01 ... ayers-900k
£900,000 could have helped our many food banks quite a lot.
It sure could.

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Psamathe wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 2:35pm One aspect I'd been considering and have recently heard raised by commentators (on TV, news/Peston) is that with Johnson planning on sacking loads of people to take the blame for his failings, he will likely find it hard to recruit capable replacements. If you were appropriately qualified/experienced, maybe in the Civil Service or maybe in business would you give-up a secure post you are happy with to work for Johnson and then stand a good chance of getting sacked from when he fails to take your advice and needs somebody to take the blame? Most sensible capable people would well avoid such posts. So Johnson will only be able to recruit inexperienced and nt so capable people seeing it as a high risk stepping stone - not good news for the country.

Ian
Your last paragraph sums up the cabinet nicely.
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Psamathe wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 2:35pm One aspect I'd been considering and have recently heard raised by commentators (on TV, news/Peston) is that with Johnson planning on sacking loads of people to take the blame for his failings, he will likely find it hard to recruit capable replacements. If you were appropriately qualified/experienced, maybe in the Civil Service or maybe in business would you give-up a secure post you are happy with to work for Johnson and then stand a good chance of getting sacked from when he fails to take your advice and needs somebody to take the blame? Most sensible capable people would well avoid such posts. So Johnson will only be able to recruit inexperienced and nt so capable people seeing it as a high risk stepping stone - not good news for the country.

Ian
And the longer he stays in power the less likely chosen cabinet members are to be competent,which becomes a downward spiral.
Looking at the present bunch of no marks it's apparent the spiral is in full entropic acceleration......
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Rory Stewart has the measure of Boris
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Yesterday's interview with the Most Interesting Living Englishman.
https://news.sky.com/video/stewart-uk-i ... p-12521202

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Jdsk wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 9:19am Yesterday's interview with the Most Interesting Living Englishman.
https://news.sky.com/video/stewart-uk-i ... p-12521202

Jonathan
Rory Stewart is absolutely spot on about Johnson,the state of the country,the Tory party and UK politics.


A true leader who's interest is in the country's welbeing,mostly likely why he didn't make leader of the Tory party.
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Remember the discussion about how important it was to support "the poorest folk"?

"Underpayments of the State Pension":
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/c ... mmary.html

Utterly disgraceful.

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The two major parties have lost any idea of getting bills passed by debate to convince the house to vote a certain way.
Perhaps a parliament Made up of a majority of independent MPs would stop all this whipping to get bills through and we'd get better government?
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"In the matter of the Metropolitan Police refusal to investigate No. 10 gatherings"

Application now made.

The legal opinion:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wpelem ... pJUyY/view

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francovendee wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 10:27am The two major parties have lost any idea of getting bills passed by debate to convince the house to vote a certain way.
Perhaps a parliament Made up of a majority of independent MPs would stop all this whipping to get bills through and we'd get better government?
It might but there are a number of challenges to overcome, including the economies of scale of parties being able to do national campaigning when most news media are national, and how committees would be structured when most MPs were independents: at the moment, committee seats are split between parties according to rules based on proportions and the parties then allocate them based on whatever they like but hopefully including ability and interest.

In local government, independents and sometimes smaller parties form groups in order to obtain a larger number of committee or panel seats (as two 5% parties may not get a seat on a particular 12-member committee, but together a 10% group normally would) and avoid fighting each other more than the ruling party. If the majority are independents, they could form several groups of broadly-compatible members to secure committee seats, but then have you just reinvented parties in another way without voters being able to see them on the ballot paper?

In the rare town/parish councils I've seen that are big enough to have committees but minor enough to have an overwhelming majority of independents, key committees become "committees of the whole" with all interested members able to take part, even if that results in a potentially-cumbersome 20+-member committee.

I'm not sure what's happened at district/borough councils that elected an overwhelming majority of independents in 2019 — Ashfield (30 independents out of 35) and Uttlesford (28 out of 39) — and whether they'll settle to long-term independent rule like Epsom & Ewell (led by its Residents Association since the 1930s).
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Jdsk wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 1:18pm "In the matter of the Metropolitan Police refusal to investigate No. 10 gatherings"

Application now made.

The legal opinion:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wpelem ... pJUyY/view

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Too much for me to read but I was surprised it doesn't seem to make reference to Blackburn. I went through most of my career believing that was the law, and it was reiterated just after I retired in a case against the chief constable of Sussex. Summary The police have discretion in which laws they enforce, so long as it's reasonable. (My words.)
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