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Ha-ha. Fair enough. I’ve never seen it written down before and no idea what it means. Serves me right for trying to be amusing. :lol:
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The damage to the Bilsdale transmitter was mentioned a few pages ago and there's an update

Bilsdale transmitter: New mast erected by end of year - operator

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-61448962
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We always have that tension, with the Left thinking it is too far to the right and the Right seeing the BBC as a bunch of Lefties, but somehow the BBC keeps on probing the government and its opponents in a way that does allow the viewer to think about issues
I think that so long as the BBC continues to draw criticism from left, right and centre, it rather suggest it must be doing a good job!
(I'm enjoying Times Radio for its politcial news coverage, these days...)
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Hi,
Why I hate the BBC!

I'm sure I'm not the only person here with half a brain cell who is intelligent enough to realise that the BBC in trying to pretend that they are delivering a good service but has many flaws.

If it was a commercial service I could understand but it's not! Its meant to be service for the country and meant to be unbiased too, it's pretty obvious that the BBC has their own agenda.

One of my pet hates is the BBC sport?
Today "let's head over BBC sports centre " "Let's Start then with football "
as per usual BBC sport consists of 70% 80% 90% and this morning it's 100% football with no other sport mention what so ever!?

Sure there's some other sport that can be reported and proportionally?

I will leave it for the BBC supporters to come up with an explanation on why the word football has been substituted with simply "sport "?

BBC has many flaws and it's pretty obvious that they have people that they need to keep happy, organisations that they need to keep happy, probably because their future relies so heavily on it/or they do all of this to keep happy with the ones that pay the license fee, the later Which is what we are led to believe, that's what the people want they say, is it?
They could simply just asked the license fee payer to tick boxes on what type of stuff they want to watch on BBC channels, at least that be a bit more accurate and a bit more level and fair.
And of course publicise the results............Probably never!

While I'm on it, one of the other BBC flaws is that they now only report the weather on TV up to 1500 p.m. the next day?
What uses that to anyone, am I the only one who uses the app nowadays and doesn't bother with listening to the BBC weather?

My other half wants to carry on paying it I want to scrap it maybe I will one day without telling her :mrgreen:

It's very obvious that the BBC will read this post.
Maybe they need to listen to the license fee payers instead of just putting on programs that nobody wants to watch, and then swapping the programs onto another BBC channel (To save the award-winning presenter) because they can't get anybody to watch the program?
Cut every other channel don't cut BBC One programs!
BBC news, has now become the BBC media show.
And don't even start me on "Dateline London "!?
Just another of the BBC mini programs that are on BBC News along with London weather!
Why would we want to know London weather when I live in another part of the country?
Do we have to look at the many programs on BBC News to realise that it's not really BBC news any more.
Are they just using the paying public as guinea pigs to see which ones on BBC news programs they prefer to watch?

" 'Wagatha Christie' "
Is a libel case which is also footballers wives really worth the coverage it's getting on the BBC news channel at the moment?
it's not, but maybe the BBC psychology department are working overboard by thinking that we need some light relief from all the doom and gloom.
That be okay but then of course real news doesn't get proportional representation on the BBC news channel, maybe they're dreaming up another title for the BBC news channel, Nobody knows.

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Thanks for taking the time & trouble to post a long comment, na, which I read all the way through :-)
I think a lot of it is incorrect or else misrepresents the situtation - although you are of course perfectly entitled to your opinion! And indeed, your own impression of the quality - or otherwise - of the programming.
Having attempted and abandoned a reply a couple of times, I think the best thing I can do is to link to an excellent book, published late '20, called The War Against the BBC: How an Unprecedented Combination of Hostile Forces Is Destroying Britain's Greatest Cultural Institution... And Why You Should Care - see here
Anyone who thinks the BBC is not worth the licence fee should read it, before they dismiss our national broadcaster out of hand. The authors, it goes without saying, do a far better job than I could, although they do take over 500 pages to do it...
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Fortunately for those disinclined to read such a long and rather dry tome, there's a shorter, sharper, funnier version of the book here on YT, from comedian & guitarist Mitch Benn...
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thirdcrank wrote: 14 May 2022, 1:11pm The damage to the Bilsdale transmitter was mentioned a few pages ago and there's an update
We're served by the transmitter and had no TV for 14, 20, more(?) days when it went down. After service was restored we had frequent outages and they're less common now but every so often we have no ITV channels (ITV, ITV3, ITV4 and so on). It can be others but seems to be ITV most often.
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NA
You're one person among almost 70million people,OK you have an opinion some of it valid but most of it pertaining just to your outlook.
IMO BBC TV and radio does a sterling job of entertaining and providing the latest news and weather countrywide and local.
Sport news and viewing is based on what the majority ofnthe public want to watch with other sport taking a lesser part.

Admittedly it doesn't always entertain or report 100% of what I want to watch,but like you I'm one in many millions of viewers and listeners.

You can please some of the people most of the time.
You can please most of the people some of the time.
But you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln (I think)

PS,do you not have a local BBC news and weather section after the national reports?
Whenever I've been in the Westcountry Cornwall and Devon I'm sure they have and with local accents too.
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BBC TV and radio does a sterling job of entertaining and providing the latest news and weather countrywide and local.
And it must be added, the alternatives, often referred to as subscription streaming services eg Netflix etc., offer hardly any local services. Such services are simply not in their business model. They prefer - indeed have to - make pan-national, long-lived and super-expensive (ie with high production values) content. Local, short-lived, specialist-interest content is of no interest to them and their accountants.
Creation and sharing of local content is enshrined in the BBC's charter and framework agreement.
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It's not just TV & Radio output. The BBC has been a leader in developing world class technology.

NICAM. Who remembers getting a NICAM video and being blown away by CD quality audio? NICAM was invented by BBC in collaboration with others in order to send FM signals to transmitters.

iPlayer. Who was first to market with ondemand radio and then TV. Everyone followed and now it is pervasive.

Electronic Music. Radio Phonic Workshop started experimenting with generating music for TV shows like Dr Who in 1958.
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Hi,
I know I know I know :)
Can me a pessimist if you like :P
I have be called it many times...........especially when I am in a position to see right through the smoke and mirrors.

My biggest gripe is the use of children in media in general.
We all know the old saying " children should be seen not heard"

My local ITV & BBC tv programs just seem today to copy each other, and just about being able to repeat the same story albeit on a different day.

TEN TORS https://www.tentors.org.uk/challenge/about is a typical example.
Every year both stations do a short program on it.
Unfortunately my local Grammar school has a team in first!.........................if not every year every other.
This school in the past plus a sister supported school is commonly the ONLY schools advertised on the tv...................when reporting the event.

Why?

Every year I am disgusted in the use of this school to promote the select school!

I hate the words.............Inspire and recently Aspire....................its not marketing, its meant to be informative about the event.
2700 people deserve some mention in doing the event not just a select few.

I see that its now common to carry a lump of 2x2" 5' wood with school flag on it :roll:
They don't carry it the whole way so why wave it at the finish.

BBC did no mention the schools names this year (Torquay Grammar) but showed their flags..........ITV managed not to mention the schools by name or show their flags.

The Army who host the event.............managed to include the line when interviewed to say " We do not support (or words to that effect) reports outside the event" So basically they now think that this Glory flag waving and use of the media tv firms picture on the schools websites is not what its all about.

One of the two teams highlighted this year ("1st past the post") had just five members....................it six in a team?
Obviosly the sixth member could not hack the pace..........and was promptly dropped so the school yet again had a first place to advertise!

Three years ago I sent BBC Southwest an email and said......."Its Not A Race"!

They stupidly carried on promoting the first teams home...........and said "Its Not A Race BUT"!!!!!!!
They used the saying again this year to carry on promoting the select school :evil:

So that's unbiased it :!: :?:

I have done ten tors four times and failed once.
No matching gear and waterproof boots..........no insoles and we used cotton tents.........no matching school clothing no flag waving............no pictures no family or teachers to clap...................

The reward is crossing the line.

I don't find any of the glorifying we see today I.M.O., inspiring or aspiring.

But I do aspire to do and finish........coming first will be more down to luck of parentage and individual expensive tutoring.

Us plebs can just carry on grovelling in the mire :(

I dont want recognition just fair play in promoting the event without glorifying individual toffs!

Don't even start on the darker sides of the BBC, not mentionable hear.

When a BBC employee's profile is just and nothing else " I was working in a cafe and was asked whether I would like a job in the BBC.................then I get a queens award"

And ITV....................."I was aproached on a train platform, and asked If I wanted a job........................now I am a mainstream presenter"

Any of you ever an offer like that?

Rant over.
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simonineaston wrote: 19 May 2022, 10:44am
BBC TV and radio does a sterling job of entertaining and providing the latest news and weather countrywide and local.
And it must be added, the alternatives, often referred to as subscription streaming services eg Netflix etc., offer hardly any local services. Such services are simply not in their business model. They prefer - indeed have to - make pan-national, long-lived and super-expensive (ie with high production values) content. Local, short-lived, specialist-interest content is of no interest to them and their accountants.
Creation and sharing of local content is enshrined in the BBC's charter and framework agreement.
From experience I can honestly say Netflix is absolute dross,we were tired of trying out films and series only to turn them off after a maximum of 20minutes sometimes less the acting was so bad :?
Packing in the channel was a great move on our part :D
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Mrs Mick F went out to The Gambia doing charity work on Feb 1st, she's back on 29th May. :D

The telly, and Netflix hasn't been on since she left.
She stopped the TVL just before she left, and maybe - if she wants - she can start a new TVL on 1st June.
Meanwhile the £5.99 for Netflix leaves our account every month. We should have stopped it as that's three months and £18 down the pan.
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reohn2 wrote: 21 May 2022, 1:59pm From experience I can honestly say Netflix is absolute dross
Better Call Saul alone is worth it.
https://youtu.be/-Kktwi3UefM
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sussex cyclist wrote: 25 May 2022, 2:08pm
reohn2 wrote: 21 May 2022, 1:59pm From experience I can honestly say Netflix is absolute dross
Better Call Saul alone is worth it.
https://youtu.be/-Kktwi3UefM
Err,proof of the puddin'?
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