"How to steal a trillion."

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Very droll, cugel - have you ever thought of writing a blog on the subject of cultural criticism? I'm sure you'd attract many readers :)
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Hard right vs hard left. What's the difference? Cubans and Venezuelans struggle to get by when the powers that be in those great socialist nations have a good old life controlling the nation.

That's the issue, haves and have not. We need to change our ways as a species which means removal of greed I guess. Impossible without some form of cultural or physical evolution. Perhaps the process that gave our ancestor species intelligence now needs to give us the mentality to truly benefit from it as a whole species.

Seriously putting labels on groups taking advantage of others when given the chance "the other side" will do it if they're ever in a position to do so. All animals are equal but some are more equal than others! Just switch the ones that are more equal around with each ideology in power.
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I really didn't realise how much I missed cudgel during his sabbatical from this forum until I read his last few posts. Sir! This site is better for your input. :)
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A this thread trundles on, I've now found it impossible to resist a plug for Private Eye which gives comprehensive cover to things like this every fortnight (although the current issue is for three weeks.) And unlike the Beeb, not deterred by any concerns about losing licence fee income.

https://shop.private-eye.co.uk/index.ph ... 828a450000
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Mankind may well be fallen from a state of grace, but we can do better than we do now in trying to restrain our worst failings.
We in Britain can do something about our financial market which launders the huge amounts dictators have stolen from their people.
We are already trying to do something about the oligarchs who back Putin and who have extracted huge sums from the peoples of the old Soviet Union.
This state of affairs is not good for most of our population.
It is surely not beyond us to reform a system which allows supernational; companies to shift the profits they make in one in one country to the jurisdiction which taxes them least, so that they enjoy the benefits of trading here without contributing.
We try to seize the profits of drug dealers, (unless their name is Sackler)
If not aiding and abetting the crimes of international criminals is socialist, then I am a socialist.
I think that the radio programme may be a revelation to some. Please listen in, or catch it on line.

Edited to add reinforcement to Third Crank's plug for Private Eye.
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I subscribe to the Eye annualy - bargainateous! A right chuckle! However comparison with BBC is misleading - they do different jobs.
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I didn't intend to mislead anybody. Money laundering and the like is something that Private Eye deals with fearlessly, and with no need to be concerned about renewal of its charter. I'm no libel lawyer, but I know enough to recognise how the Eye prepares its defences. I'm not suggesting it's infallible but I find it excellent
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Funny thing about criminals stealing money. There's criminality in all ideologies from neoliberalism to Marxist communism. Ideas of better ways to operate in a society might sound good in principle but the practise always ends up failing as one group benefits at the expense of others. You might just end up switching your exploiters as you change the system. Eventually national exploited end up running away with their ill-gotten gains or get bumped off in the change.

The old fraud of a Nigerian government minister having gotten millions of illgotten gains and needs your account to get it out only works because for a period of time the government there was corrupt.
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I find it excellent
Me too! I wish more folks would read it. At least the redoubtable Mr Hislop appears on that news prog. although I can't recall what it's called as I'm not a BBC telly regular - he's on with the equally chucklesome Paul Merton - I expect they make a lovely couple. :)
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Tangled Metal wrote: 27 May 2022, 1:04pm Funny thing about criminals stealing money. There's criminality in all ideologies from neoliberalism to Marxist communism. Ideas of better ways to operate in a society might sound good in principle but the practise always ends up failing as one group benefits at the expense of others. You might just end up switching your exploiters as you change the system. Eventually national exploited end up running away with their ill-gotten gains or get bumped off in the change.

The old fraud of a Nigerian government minister having gotten millions of illgotten gains and needs your account to get it out only works because for a period of time the government there was corrupt.
This is a bit apathetic, and I do not think improving our regulation of money laundering requires a change of ideology or whatever in this country.
Most of us would agree that the goings on described in this programme ought not to be happening here, and stopping them would not change us into Venezuela.
Any patriot would surely want to improve Britain, so that we are not complicit.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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