English Language - what "Does your head in" ??

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DaveReading wrote: 13 May 2022, 8:47am [
, since when was a generation defined as "a period of around 15 years" ?
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We're visiting York tomorrow, parking on the outskirts and walking in via the racecourse, along the river and over the Millennium Bridge, calling in at "Cycle Heaven" bike shop, which has a nice café. Or, as they now seem to want to call it, an "eatery". Aaarrggh!
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As they "now" seem to want to call it? I reckon I first heard "eatery" in the early 1990s, and the data suggests I was probably late:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?c ... moothing=3
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I'd heard it before, of course - and it had always made me squirm - but this particular café has previously been called a ... café. And now it is run as a franchise (presumably?) the new managers seem to have opted for what I suppose they think is a better title. Does my head in.
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Ah, well I hope they can do your stomach proud even if they do your head in. :D
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What don't you like about it, please?

Do you think that it is less accurate or elegant than café, or is it confusing or the derivation flawed in some way?

Or is it only unfamiliar?

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Bmblbzzz wrote: 26 May 2022, 9:44pm As they "now" seem to want to call it? I reckon I first heard "eatery" in the early 1990s, and the data suggests I was probably late:
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?c ... moothing=3
OED's first recorded use is from 1901.

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Ray wrote: 26 May 2022, 8:51pm We're visiting York tomorrow, parking on the outskirts and walking in via the racecourse, along the river and over the Millennium Bridge, calling in at "Cycle Heaven" bike shop, which has a nice café. Or, as they now seem to want to call it, an "eatery". Aaarrggh!
Was there last year -- didn't think much of the cafe or eatery. Cold hard wooden bench seats iirc.
Take a wander across the road and visit ' get cycling " a much more interesting shop.
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Twenny instead of twenty.
Even the BBC shipping forecasters say it! :shock:
Even on the BBC News!

Lazy pronunciation.

It's as bad as tempriture and vetrinarian and Februry, let alone Wensdy and Sattdy.
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Mick F wrote: 27 May 2022, 2:47pm Twenny instead of twenty.
Even the BBC shipping forecasters say it! :shock:
Even on the BBC News!

Lazy pronunciation.

It's as bad as tempriture and vetrinarian and Februry, let alone Wensdy and Sattdy.
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Go to Tasmania.
Been there! :D

They call it "LAWN-SESS-TUN".

The Cornish call it Lansen as that's it's name.
Blame the mapmakers and the railways for making it sound posh.

Old name was Dunheved when it was the Capital of Cornwall ............... then moved to Bodmin, and now Truro.
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Mick F wrote: 27 May 2022, 2:47pm Twenny instead of twenty.
Even the BBC shipping forecasters say it! :shock:
Even on the BBC News!
I believe that’s an East Anglia thing along with missing the ‘g’ from the end of words.

As for regional accents in the BBC, it has to be a part in this day and age. What surprises me is just how much ‘plummy-ness’ still existed when I watched a lot of telly in the 80’s. When I see clips from that decade the presenters sound more like those from the fifties... and then I remind myself that it was closer to the fifties than today!
I’m in support of less ‘stiff upper lip’ broadcasting but some regional accents still grate. Especially the ‘New London ‘innit’ one. If you don’t know what I mean imagine the type of youth that would construct a sentence with “lyyyyyyyke” included as every other word and your are mostly there.
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Mick F wrote: 27 May 2022, 3:06pmThe Cornish call it Lansen as that's it's name.
its

As suggested before: Skitt's Law should be permanently in play in this thread. With penalties.

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Sorry, blame auto spell.
Should have been its, and not is it.
Mabe I should have written "because that is its name".
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