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English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
lol. ty
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.”
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Can you give an example showing it’s not undesirable?
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Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Nope. 'Tain't. 'Sabout which aspects of English as she is spoke, or as she's meant to be spoke, drive you up the wall.
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Twas ever thus, methinks.
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Some well-known *linguistic tautologies (that are not merely repetition) from classics of the English language:
Oh, that this too, too sullied flesh would melt,
Thaw, and resolve itself into a dew!
North Pole
Discovered by Pooh
Pooh found it
And God Almighty give you mercy before the man, that he may send away your other brother, and Benjamin. If I be bereaved of my children, I am bereaved.
With malice toward none; with charity for all...
And it's no, nay, never,
no, nay, never, no more
will I play the wild rover
no, never, no more
Jonathan
* Desirable tautologies in logic are much harder to find, but I feel Yogi Berra looming...
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Pease don't forget this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5W7Xn7FiA
even the dutch/belgians appreciate a good tautology!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5W7Xn7FiA
even the dutch/belgians appreciate a good tautology!
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
I had some doubts about that one. And it wasn't in my original list of examples. But then I added it. Because if Lincoln and his audience did act with with charity for all then it would exclude acting with malice towards anyone.
Any thoughts on the others, please?
Jonathan
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Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
I don't believe that charity for all; malice for none is tautology. Charity for all possibly excludes malice for anyone, but malice for none is neutral and does not extend to charity for all.Jdsk wrote: ↑5 Jul 2022, 12:15pm
I had some doubts about that one. And it wasn't in my original list of examples. But then I added it. Because if Lincoln and his audience did act with with charity for all then it would exclude acting with malice towards anyone.
Any thoughts on the others, please?
Jonathan
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.”
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
Thinking about this, I'm not sure that charity does exclude malice. Plenty of people offer charity, then look down upon the recipients; tell them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps, call them lazy and worse.
“In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.”
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom
Re: English Language - what "Does your head in" ??
I had that same thought. We predominantly now use charity about acts of charity, although a charitable interpretation is still commonly used. From the context of the Address I came to the conclusion that Lincoln was referring to the Christian virtue rather than acts of charity. That would put it as a closer opponent to malice.
Jonathan
PS: How about Pooh's tautology... or is it? : - )