I dont see any reason why the UK couldn't use both (as well as just count to green where there is no amber countdown, ie most crossings currently):mjr wrote: ↑5 Aug 2022, 11:44pmThey also have the cool countdown timers around their WAIT ("WACHT") light-up, often triggered by ground detectors, not a beg button. This persuades you it's not long to wait, shows you've been detected and allows you to get ready to go. It's very cool when the countdown suddenly accelerates because more cyclists have arrived and the controller is set up to avoid bike jams.
For some reason, the UK only uses countdown timers for the remaining green time, not the more useful Dutch use to show the remaining red time. Probably because the UK countdown would be embarrassingly long.
ie, with the (red-coloured?) countdown to crossing-green shown on the panel beside any illuminated red symbol/ wait text (I suppose it would be easier to place it below wait text ).
I still prefer farside pedestrian/shared-use aspects but dont object to complementary nearside panels being used as repeaters for said farside aspects. However, I think the countdown to pedestrian-green aspect should only be on the nearside panel.
One advantage of a panel count down (to green) on toucan-puffins is it could take over the physical place of the annoying legally confused/inconsistent red cycle symbol, which offers advice like the red pedestrian aspect but differs from the preexisting meaning of a legal instruction of 'must stop' on a road-traffic-signal-head.... The fact that said toucan is a shared crossing can be inferred from either the unlit (but visible) green cycle symbol and/or a small shared use symbol, on the panel pole.