I had a Peugeot where on the forks I could see the welded seam of the tubes down the back of the forks.... I was able to change the offset by treading on them.....I also straightened a pair of bent Raleigh forks (the ones where the "crown" was a bit of tube) the same way, and I twisted another pair of similar Raleigh forks in exactly the way you describe.....all steel forks are not created equal!peetee wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 7:38pmI suspect a bike I had to deal with wasn’t far off. In trying to remove a reluctant stem from a lightly scabby but otherwise clean Carbolite 103 steel Peugeot I managed without too much effort to rotate the bars, stem steerer and fork crown without rotating the hub!
Head says steel, heart says titanium
Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
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Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
Woodrup Cycles is building my new frame, so I guess you'd call it a Woodrup. All I have to do now is decide the colour.
Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
Exec Summary:peetee wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 11:28am My latest purchase is a Van Nicholas titanium frame with carbon forks. Rather a chunky-looking beast in comparison to my other bikes. The ride quality felt through saddle and bars is firmer than any of the steel frames I have owned so far. Not at all what is generally projected about titanium frames.
Ti = like steel, but lighter* and corrosion proof. (may also cost more!)
I don't think anyone says they are comfier than steel.
*All Other Things Being Equal etc ...
Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
As Titanium became ‘popular’ in the 90’s that is certainly what the general opinion was. I distinctly remember a road test by Bicycle magazine voicing that view. I have met a few owners of titanium bikes over the years and it’s a common thing to say. I accompanied a friend of mine to help when they bought an Enigma. That is what they had attracted them and I haven’t heard the contrary from them.mattheus wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 2:06pmExec Summary:peetee wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 11:28am My latest purchase is a Van Nicholas titanium frame with carbon forks. Rather a chunky-looking beast in comparison to my other bikes. The ride quality felt through saddle and bars is firmer than any of the steel frames I have owned so far. Not at all what is generally projected about titanium frames.
Ti = like steel, but lighter* and corrosion proof. (may also cost more!)
I don't think anyone says they are comfier than steel.
*All Other Things Being Equal etc ...
But as you say, it’s all relative and I can’t state what all these opinions had as previous bikes bar one; which was a carbon Specialized with Zerts comfort inserts....hmmmm.
As ever you suck up the hype, make yer choice and pay yer money.
The older I get the more I’m inclined to act my shoe size, not my age.
Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
The early titanium frames were made of tubes with the common diameters , so rather "floppy", that's why the manufacturers went to use oversided tubes (stiffer) and that's where it all went a bit fuzzy.
Titanium frames can be made very stiff or less stiff of floppy/ comfortable by choosing the right tube sizes and wallthicknesses.
Not the material itself, but the design determines the properthies.
Titanium frames can be made very stiff or less stiff of floppy/ comfortable by choosing the right tube sizes and wallthicknesses.
Not the material itself, but the design determines the properthies.
Re: Head says steel, heart says titanium
Which is precisely where I came into the conversation.
The older I get the more I’m inclined to act my shoe size, not my age.