pjclinch wrote: ↑15 Aug 2022, 11:53am
foxyrider wrote: ↑11 Aug 2022, 5:57pm
pjclinch wrote: ↑15 Jul 2022, 7:41pm
Back when I trained trainers I actually raised the multiple independent brakes as an example.
"Can we let illegal bikes in a session?"
Everyone says no.
"Dame Sarah Storey's bike is not technically legal. If she showed up and wanted to join in your session would you tell her that wouldn't be possible because her bike isn't legal?"
Everyone has an "oh... it's not quite black and white after all!" expression on their face.
You do realise that the law does allow for 'adapted' bikes? So whilst DSS's bike may not meet the letter of the law it is allowed by dispensation.
And i'm sure you know that the whole pedal reflector thing is a red herring as it only applies to new cycles sold with
pedals. I've never bought a bike other than my first 'racer' that came with pedals.
I'm not sure I do...
https://www.bikeradar.com/features/bike ... d-to-know/
seems fairly well rresearched and doesn't say anything retro-fit reflector-free pedals being kosher after dark.
Also see https://www.cyclinguk.org/article/whats ... -your-bike
I must admit I'm not up to speed an adapted bike legality. Where does such dispensation come from, and in what form?
Working in the trade for a couple of decades, these subjects came up fairly regularly, we did our research for compliance to cover ourselves as much as anything. I can't give you chapter and verse but at different times we had conversations with pretty much everyone from component suppliers to industry big wigs.
Pedal reflectors - all adult bikes ie anything with greater than 20" wheels, if supplied with pedals must have pedal reflectors fitted at point of sale. A bicycle is only a bicycle at point of sale if it can be ridden from the store, ie it includes pedals with the reflectors (not just pedal but front & rear too) Most top end bikes are sold without pedals so technically you are buying a custom build which falls outside of the need for reflectors at point of sale (most shops will however fit front & rear anyway). .... doesn't say anything retro-fit reflector-free pedals being kosher after dark.
- nor does it say they aren't!.
The case of a BMX's legality in this respect is a bit grey, they fall under childrens bikes based on wheel size yet many are ridden by nominally adults - guess you argue that in court!
Adapted bikes are quite the can of worms, they should as far as possible meet the usual requirements, 2 independent brakes being the main area of concern. This is often covered by the simple expedient of using either an extra brake set up but not expected to be used (a hub brake for example) then running a double lever to give full braking in use much like many BMX's do for freestyle use.
have this to say on the subject -This requires a coaster brake hub and a new rear wheel built around it. The other option is to have two brake levers on one side of the handlebar. That’s doable but awkward with standard levers. Better is to use a special brake like Hope’s Tech 3 Duo, which has independent levers on one brake lever body