Low Traffic Neighbourhoods?

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ratherbeintobago wrote: 14 Jun 2022, 6:29pm Intuitively it should be better for people on boundary roads too, as variously there is traffic evaporation due to loss of short car movements and less interruption of boundary road flow by cars turning in and out of side roads. However I don’t know if the hard evidence is there to support that.
A study has recently found some evidence which seems to support your intuition: "a reduction in traffic volume and nitrogen dioxide pollution both inside their perimeters and on boundary roads, according to a study of three such schemes in London. The findings run counter to claims by anti-LTN campaigners"
https://www.newscientist.com/article/23 ... rby-roads/
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Meanwhile Salford have apparently abandoned their LTN despite 68% of residents being in favour.

I’m not sure how many of the TfGM schemes this leaves. Oldham Council announced that they wouldn’t be filtering theirs 🤦‍♂️
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An unruly mob of objectors, with film crew in tow, turned up at my local LTN consultation meeting last week at the ward library. As it turned out the room booked was too small so many were left outside, chanting about stolen democracy and trying to storm the meeting room in scenes reminiscent of the US Capitol. To try and stop the meeting proceeding they set off a fire alarm. The police had to be called as the council staff were in fear of their physical safety. There were children in the queue outside and also in the children's library adjacent to the foyer. Several looked scared and a couple were crying.

This was clearly a co-ordinated action and wouldn't surprise me if it had been organised by players outside the local ward or even the borough.
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As I’m sure has been said before, the people who are going to complain most about any LTN are those who use it as a through route, not those who actually live there.
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ratherbeintobago wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 9:56am As I’m sure has been said before, the people who are going to complain most about any LTN are those who use it as a through route, not those who actually live there.
The new Oxford schemes are now being attacked by that champion of the people Katie Hopkins.

A pretty strong signal that the proposals are for the general good, I would say ...
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Definitely!
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mattheus wrote: 9 Jan 2023, 10:37am ...
The new Oxford schemes are now being attacked by that champion of the people Katie Hopkins.
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"Why do traffic reduction schemes attract so many conspiracy theories?":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... y-theories

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Jdsk wrote: 10 Jan 2023, 9:42am
mattheus wrote: 9 Jan 2023, 10:37am ...
The new Oxford schemes are now being attacked by that champion of the people Katie Hopkins.
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"Why do traffic reduction schemes attract so many conspiracy theories?":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... y-theories

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There is a lot of madness about and the internet has set it free. We are in the midst of a global social experiment, where daftness can be broadcast as fact, and I wonder how this will play out over the next decade. I feel uneasy about it.

But I must take a trip to Oxford when the new regime is up and running. The last time I went there I resolved never to return, based largely on the unpleasant traffic-dominated nature of the centre. It seemed to me to be one of the worst city centres I had visited, and badly needed a plan for something better.
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Jdsk wrote: 10 Jan 2023, 9:42am
mattheus wrote: 9 Jan 2023, 10:37am ...
The new Oxford schemes are now being attacked by that champion of the people Katie Hopkins.
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"Why do traffic reduction schemes attract so many conspiracy theories?":
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... y-theories

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Slightly depressing article!
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"Changes in motor traffic inside London’s LTNs and on boundary roads":
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13Ns ... amstptpyy1

"This document is a systematic review and meta-analysis of local authority data on changes in motor traffic inside and on boundary roads of 46 Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes (LTNs) introduced between May 2020 and May 2021 in 11 London boroughs. It seeks to establish impacts of these LTNs on motor traffic. It presents actual measured changes and compares these to background changes in traffic levels across the three London functional zones (Central Activities Zone, Inner, and Outer London). Mean and median averages and distributional plots are presented."

Guardian coverage:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ads-london

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