Firstly, I don't see how that follows from a tale of the human control lousing things up.Biospace wrote: ↑30 May 2023, 6:45pmWhether or not that system is under or over 'automated' in your opinion is immaterial, the point being made was that removal of human control for home heating doesn't necessarily, automatically improve matters.mjr wrote: ↑30 May 2023, 5:35pmThat sounds under-automated to me...axel_knutt wrote: ↑30 May 2023, 3:21pm Over-automated systems are a PITA. For example if I turn my roomstat up now
Don't worry about the "condensing" feature of your boiler: your controls sound so simplistic that I bet they don't lower the boiler output temperature enough to condense anyway.
Secondly, I don't remember anyone suggesting otherwise.
I'm pretty sure the best automated systems with lots of temperature sensors, door/window opening sensors, connections to local weather stations, very specific weather forecasts and much more can cope with this... but you may be surprised that temperatures and heating efficiency aren't what most people really want optimised. It's inhabitant comfort. And to do that, we need the human controls so that comfort can be an input to the calculation.A good 'automated' system needs to compute far more than the best ones do at the moment if both temperatures are to be optimised and heating efficiency can make best use of high levels of insulation and heated thermal mass.
That's far more accessible to most people than learning to operate complex heating systems manually and presumably being restricted when they can leave the premises alone.