Dental Implant Cost (vs Problem Root Canal)

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I've had three front implant teeth for maybe 10 years now.
The dentist who did them was a specialist and had many overseas patients coming to him for cosmetic surgery (he was later struck off for financial irregularities - nothing to do with his competence).
The implants cast me (as I recall) £3600 - more of that later.
My parents didn't believe in dentistry and in the 1960s I consumed vast quantities of sweets and sugary drinks - by the time I married I had rotten teeth. (I was never a smoker).
At some point in the 1980s I had a lot of work done on my front teeth, and ended up with shrapnel of bone fragments inside my top gum at the front - which ultimately got infected. At this point is was a case of removing the front teeth and either going with a plate or implants. Not even wanting to contemplate a plate, I bit the bullet (!) and went for the implants.
I had the full clinical examination including 360^ imaging, several mounds, etc.
The screws were fitted - and it all went tits up.......
The gums became infected, and the 'face' of the gum started just sloughing off - very unpleasant.
The dentist had never seen such a case, but removed the screws, waited for the gum to heal (I think I had heavy duty antibiotics) and then I had bone grafts, which were done by way of bought-in powdered bone.
Once the bone graft had settled, new screws were fitted, new moulds were taken (because I effectively had no front gum tissue now) and, and, and all was well, after a few weeks of anxious waiting.
The implants were screwed into place - and I've never looked back. They feel, and look natural.
My dentist had - he explained - provided a fixed price quote for the implants, it appears that other dentists might charge per hour, so the infected gum would have been an additional expense on top of the original price due to the extra work. I was never advised to have regular check ups - although my current NHS dentist always looks at the, carefully (see below)
It is this fear of infection / complications that would make me very nervous about going abroad for dental surgery.
Very recently my current dentist - a cyclist as well - was commenting on the quality of work in relation to my implants. His comment was that to get that quality of work today 'you'd have to go to Eastern Europe' and that if he needed 'serious dental work' that he'd be out there in a heartbeat - which is certainly something to chew over (!)


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If we accept that prevention is better than cure, oral health is the key. Obviously, there will always be things like getting smacked in the gob with a cricket bat, but a healthy mouth will minimise other risks. It seems that in spite of the fall in the number of NHS dentists, the number of those still offering NHS treatment and who also employ a dental hygienist seems to be increasing. This is only anecdotal, but my wife and I go to different practices and both have started employ dental hygienists in the last few years. Mine charges £18 a session which is a bargain IMO.

This is not just about tooth decay but gums and jaws as well. I'd say that any sign of bleeding when brushing teeth is evidence that things are not 100% right. Bleeding gums will tend to shrink, exposing the roots of the teeth to decay and the gums to infection. In old age, I've had an explanation of how to prevent that which would have been invaluable decades ago. That's even bearing in mind that as someone who has never smoked, I have relatively good oral health.

During the course of my implant treatment, I've also been taught that bones don't stop changing in adulthood. I had assumed that once you had stopped growing bones were bones, but in fact, unused bones tend to shrink eg after a tooth extraction. I suppose this is similar to one of the things apparently found with the bones of astronauts experiencing long periods of weightlessness.

I've discovered all this as part of the programme to maintain my implants in good nick, but the same principles apply to avoiding needing them, apart from that smack in the gob.
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If you have a tooth either side of the infected one, what's wrong with a bridge?

I had one for over 10 years (bridging a double gap) until unfortunately the tooth at the front had to have a root filling which disturbed the integrity of the bridge. I now have a 3-tooth gap. :(

This is from http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/dentalhealth ... ments.aspx

A bridge is a fixed replacement for a missing tooth or teeth. It's made by taking an impression of the surrounding teeth, which will eventually support the bridge. A bridge is usually created from precious metal and porcelain and will be fixed in your mouth (unlike dentures, which can be removed).
Bridges are available on the NHS (band 3) and cost up to £233.70.
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tykeboy2003 wrote:If you have a tooth either side of the infected one, what's wrong with a bridge?

I had one for over 10 years (bridging a double gap) until unfortunately the tooth at the front had to have a root filling which disturbed the integrity of the bridge. I now have a 3-tooth gap. :(

This is from http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/dentalhealth ... ments.aspx

A bridge is a fixed replacement for a missing tooth or teeth. It's made by taking an impression of the surrounding teeth, which will eventually support the bridge. A bridge is usually created from precious metal and porcelain and will be fixed in your mouth (unlike dentures, which can be removed).
Bridges are available on the NHS (band 3) and cost up to £233.70.


A bridge is a perfectly good option, but the involve significant work on what might be perfectly good teeth, which might compromise the long term health of the good teeth.
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rualexander wrote:A bridge is a perfectly good option, but the involve significant work on what might be perfectly good teeth, which might compromise the long term health of the good teeth.


I agree, but if the teeth either side of the gap already have fillings, then it would definitely be the best option. Best thing to do is ask the dentist.
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One more tooth out and I'm gonna have to go for x2/x3 implants. Decisions,decisions. Difficult stuff.
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I had a tooth which was subjected to root canal treatment and filled with large filling. The filling came out last year. The tooth was irrepairable and removed meaning that the bottom left handside of my jaw is now missing three teeth. I was advised by my dentist that the best option for me would be an implant and that I would have to wait 6 months after the extraction to have the treatment.

Three weeks ago I underwent dental implant surgery which involved having two posts to which three teeth will be abutted in 4-6 months time once the bone has secured the posts. I was slightly alarmed when the dentist used a ratchet torque wrench (presumably dental grade) to screw the posts in, and expressed his satisfaction that he'd tightened the screw to 50nm. However, for the first two weeks the pain was worse than I had feared and needed to be managed with 600mg ibuprofen 2, or sometimes 3, times a day. I was in contact with my dentist who said that he'd like to have a look and do a panoramic x-ray to check it was normal - neither of which I was charged for. Fortunately these proved to be fine and from day 16 I have been pain free. I live in Portugal, where the treatment is being done privately, and the cost of everything will be 3000 euro (about £2,500). I have paid 1200 euro now with the balance to be paid when the treatment is completed.
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This seems weird. Bear in mind the last post on this thread was in December 2016.

Yesterday evening a first post - that is from a new member - was displayed with a link to a recommended provider. I successfully reported it as possible spam. A few seconds later when I returned to this thread that post had disappeared but borisface had posted.
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briansnail wrote: 20 Mar 2024, 12:17pm Spend the money.You can't take it with you.
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You're not a dentist by any chance? :lol:

Yes agreed it does seem an odd reignition of this thread. I only commented as my experience was recent. And I'm a real person, honest! But then if I wasn't, saying that I was a real person would be exactly the sort of thing I would say.
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On the dental theme, I've recently been seeing a dental hygienist for periodontal disease, after years at a different practice where they told me I was lying when I said I flossed twice every day. Only 5 years ago, according to the hygeinist, the dental world admitted that around 25% of serious gum disease is caused by the immune system over-reacting, not by poor dental hygiene. Explained a lot! This hygeinist - and my dentist - are the first people who have bothered to really go into detail about using floss and those little brushes. It's made a massive difference.
The connection is that I too lost a front tooth recently - so far I am ok with a nice crown, still cost as much as a decent commuting bike!
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Just as an aside.We all know dentists say brush twice a day for fluoride protection and floss expanding is best.
My dentist is clever in that she tried the different colour inter dental sticks and selected the correct one for me.If you get one to small or big one tends not to use them.I am guessing your retired so you have time for all this.
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Just as an aside.We all know dentists say brush twice a day for fluoride protection and floss expanding is best.
My dentist is clever in that she tried the different colour inter dental sticks and selected the correct one for me.If you get one to small or big one tends not to use them.I am guessing your retired so you have time for all this
That's the sort of advice I've had from the dental hygeinist I see now. Just floss doesn't work for everyone.
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