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Thanks. I thought that I had found an open version... but when I linked it from here it was also blocked!

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It's accessible in my default browser (I'm using ddg on my iPad - iOS17.5.1) but if I switch to my reading list, which opens in the Safari app, I hit the paywall.
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Paulatic wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 1:15pm Archived version here https://archive.ph/2024.06.06-053853/ht ... 50261b3794
Works for me.

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Nice...
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The polls,the only thing we have to go off,are putting Reform and Tories at about 18% each max,Labour @ 37% last time I looked.
Which might make an interesting coalition at roughly 50:50. Depends on actual MP numbers though
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If Farage gets elected what does it say about the voters of Clacton?
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tim-b wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:21am
The polls,the only thing we have to go off,are putting Reform and Tories at about 18% each max,Labour @ 37% last time I looked.
Which might make an interesting coalition at roughly 50:50. Depends on actual MP numbers though
Yep,though it could be very one sided,ask a Lib Dem MP :shock:
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francovendee wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:27am If Farage gets elected what does it say about the voters of Clacton?
Do you think he will though?
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tim-b wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:21am
The polls,the only thing we have to go off,are putting Reform and Tories at about 18% each max,Labour @ 37% last time I looked.
Which might make an interesting coalition at roughly 50:50. Depends on actual MP numbers though
It would but I haven't seen any such possibility suggested in any polls. Farage on Today this a.m. made no claim to winning seats, but did state his ambition/target to be PM after the next GE. He did not say which Party he would then be representing. All he needs for this to be a distinct possibility is to win Clacton and then join the Tories and be "elected" leader.
And of course he is a democrat, hence his support for Trump!
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francovendee wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:27am If Farage gets elected what does it say about the voters of Clacton?
Demographics of the revised constituency:
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcg ... at=Clacton
which will probably surprise nobodey.
reohn2 wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:39am Do you think he will though?
Yes. 72% chance in the linked analysis.

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Jdsk wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:49am
francovendee wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:27am If Farage gets elected what does it say about the voters of Clacton?
Demographics of the revised constituency:
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcg ... at=Clacton
which will probably surprise nobodey.
reohn2 wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:39am Do you think he will though?
Yes. 72% chance in the linked analysis.

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Interesting,if he does win at his eighth attempt the brown stuff will hit the fan....
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tim-b wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:21am
The polls,the only thing we have to go off,are putting Reform and Tories at about 18% each max,Labour @ 37% last time I looked.
Which might make an interesting coalition at roughly 50:50. Depends on actual MP numbers though
I think that it's just one poll so far with those sort of numbers.

A shift of that sort increases the chance of a solid Labour majority in the Commons.

What would happen between the parties outside Parliament I have no idea. There hasn't been much discussion of where Conservatives who want nothing to do with Reform would go...

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^ White, pro-Brexit and old. Yup, that'll do it. Well chosen target.
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reohn2 wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:51am
Jdsk wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:49am
francovendee wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:27am If Farage gets elected what does it say about the voters of Clacton?
Demographics of the revised constituency:
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcg ... at=Clacton
which will probably surprise nobodey.
reohn2 wrote: 17 Jun 2024, 8:39am Do you think he will though?
Yes. 72% chance in the linked analysis.
Interesting,if he does win at his eighth attempt the brown stuff will hit the fan....
I don't expect him to take much part in Parliament. And he manages to get a lot of publicity as it is, so probably not much change there.

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