Image display size

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Re: Image display size

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By way of a test, here's a pano hosted on my Pbase account and referenced via a link:

Image

Resized the same as uploaded pics.

The culprit is the CSS, which imposes a max size on all displayed images. My original is considerably wider than the display:

https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/122488471
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Re: Image display size

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I wonder if there is a new max, or can you go on attaching more forever :?:
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Don't tempt me! :lol:

I wonder if I could upload a whole host of our photographs in one single post?
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Image orientation

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Rotation problem when uploading from iPad:
viewtopic.php?p=1812372#p1812372

Do we still have Exif incompatibilities?

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I suspect problems may be greater with devices that rotate the screen image as the device rotates, such as an iPad. Some cameras can also rotate the image, some not - it depends on having an orientation sensor. My old Canon can, my old Nokia 515 phone can't. I fix it on the Mac in the Finder or Photos or Preview. Probably they all just change the EXIF and leave the pixels alone.
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Re: Image display size

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plancashire wrote: 3 Dec 2023, 6:16pm I suspect problems may be greater with devices that rotate the screen image as the device rotates, such as an iPad. Some cameras can also rotate the image, some not - it depends on having an orientation sensor. My old Canon can, my old Nokia 515 phone can't. I fix it on the Mac in the Finder or Photos or Preview. Probably they all just change the EXIF and leave the pixels alone.
Yes. On some sites the lack of tags from older devices can result in the problem not appearing. I have seen this used in a totally nonproductive blame game.

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Re: Image display size

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Audax67 wrote: 16 Jan 2023, 5:01pm By way of a test, here's a pano hosted on my Pbase account and referenced via a link:

Image

Resized the same as uploaded pics.
That's not the same size, it's considerably wider and must have more pixels in total than any of those uploaded, rather than linked, by MickF.

It's my observation that images linked from other sites, such as Flickr, do display bigger here. But that's no help for those without anywhere else to upload and display their images. They're stuck with the pokey little postcard-sized upload limit.

I decided to test whether downsampling to fewer pixels and more jpg compression helps at all. It doesn't :(
AColina.jpg
Original 1.69Mb image
AColina1024.jpg
Downsampled and compressed 255Kb image

Although only 255Kb, the second image is nevertheless 1024 pixels wide and at 100% displays twice as wide as the fuzzy 'postcard' above, with enough detail to read WHISKY in white on the end of the fork.

Surely 255Kb is not too big a file to display on our site without further degradation?
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The image displayed inline with the text is a "thumbnail" preview.

It's sized so it doesn't take up too much screen space, but is big enough to see what the image shows.

Click on the thumbnail image to see the full-size original.
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admin wrote: 15 Feb 2024, 10:24am The image displayed inline with the text is a "thumbnail" preview.

It's sized so it doesn't take up too much screen space, but is big enough to see what the image shows.

Click on the thumbnail image to see the full-size original.
Thanks, I've been using this forum since 2007 and never realised that. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

I'm afraid the little arrow changing to a little hand was too subtle for me. If the border of the image changed to blue, or if the arrow changed to a little plus magnifying glass, like when you mouse-over images on eBay, I would've got it.

I'm biased of course, but don't think I'm especially stupid. I'll wager lots of other people using this forum don't realise those images are thumbnails that get bigger if clicked. And if they do realise that, they may nevertheless get caught by how the full-size image must be closed with the back arrow, else the whole forum is gone and one has to start all over! The way this forum opens links in the same window often catches me out. None of the other sites I regularly use work like that.
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Re: Image display size

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Jdsk wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 11:25am ...
I think that there are three scenarios:

1 Uploading from the local device. I need to do some experiments on resizing before upload.

2 Outlinking to another server which only offers one size.

3 Outlinking to another server which offers different sizes, such as Twitter's Large, Medium, Small.
Has anyone made any progress on controlling the display size for the second category?

Thanks

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Re: Image display size

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Jdsk wrote: 4 Sep 2024, 3:49pm
Jdsk wrote: 15 Jan 2023, 11:25am ...
I think that there are three scenarios:

1 Uploading from the local device. I need to do some experiments on resizing before upload.

2 Outlinking to another server which only offers one size.

3 Outlinking to another server which offers different sizes, such as Twitter's Large, Medium, Small.
Has anyone made any progress on controlling the display size for the second category?

Thanks

Jonathan
The base languages of web pages, HTML and CSS, can rescale any image no matter its source. Whether the software of this forum uses these facilities sensibly is a different matter. There is no technical reason why it could not, and the solution is easy.

Who looks after the technical support for the forum software? Is it time for a review and modernisation? Personally, I find it fine except for the way it deals with graphics, which is unusual by today's conventions, and hard to understand from the user interface.
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Re: Image display size

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I look after the Forum for Cycling UK, and am always open to suggestions to improve the Forum.

However, to minimise the amount of work (and hence cost to Cycling UK) to keep the Forum up-to-date we try to minimise the differences compared to a standard phpBB3 installation. The code, and HTML+CSS, is much more complicated that you might think.

So what you see is basically what phpBB developers produce: more details here: https://www.phpbb.com

Cheers!

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On Cycle Chat including images is as quick and simple as Ctrl-C >> Ctrl-V, no need for a copy on your own computer at all.
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CycleChat uses XenForo, not phpBB.
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Re: Image display size

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admin wrote: 12 Sep 2024, 11:09am I look after the Forum for Cycling UK, and am always open to suggestions to improve the Forum.

However, to minimise the amount of work (and hence cost to Cycling UK) to keep the Forum up-to-date we try to minimise the differences compared to a standard phpBB3 installation. The code, and HTML+CSS, is much more complicated that you might think.

So what you see is basically what phpBB developers produce: more details here: https://www.phpbb.com

Cheers!

Anthony
I think you could bring the forum up to date and make it work like many other web sites by adding the Lightbox extension: https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/extension/lightbox. Do you have a way to test this before using it live?
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