Is there anyone on here who did the RPL for their Bikeability training? How did it go?
RPL How did it change how you train?
RPL How did it change how you train?
- Philip Benstead
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RPL How did it change how you train?
Philip Benstead | Life Member Former CTC Councillor/Trustee
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
I'd be interested to know what it is/means...
Pete.
Pete.
Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...
Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
When I asked in the cycle chat version of this, Priest Benstead grudgingly posted https://www.bikeability.org.uk/for-inst ... structors/
MJR, mostly pedalling 3-speed roadsters. KL+West Norfolk BUG incl social easy rides http://www.klwnbug.co.uk
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Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
This is National Standard Cycle Training section read by Cycle Instructors hopefully, if you are not a Cyclie Instructor you will not have done RLP so you cant comment.mjr wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 3:07pmWhen I asked in the cycle chat version of this, Priest Benstead grudgingly posted https://www.bikeability.org.uk/for-inst ... structors/
Philip Benstead | Life Member Former CTC Councillor/Trustee
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
If people are interested in what NS training is or covers I don't see not having the Magic Bit Of Paper would prevent them from asking/contributing, and indeed mjr's reply did tell me what I'd asked...Philip Benstead wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 3:17pmThis is National Standard Cycle Training section read by Cycle Instructors hopefully, if you are not a Cyclie Instructor you will not have done RLP so you cant comment.mjr wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 3:07pmWhen I asked in the cycle chat version of this, Priest Benstead grudgingly posted https://www.bikeability.org.uk/for-inst ... structors/
Pete.
Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...
Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
RPL is a term used in other training fields, too, plus some of us who aren't cycle instructors do know cycle instructors who we can send links to, if we think they might know, but to assess that, we need to have some idea what the message is about!pjclinch wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 4:05pmIf people are interested in what NS training is or covers I don't see not having the Magic Bit Of Paper would prevent them from asking/contributing, and indeed mjr's reply did tell me what I'd asked...Philip Benstead wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 3:17pm This is National Standard Cycle Training section read by Cycle Instructors hopefully, if you are not a Cyclie Instructor you will not have done RLP so you cant comment.
It also helps to expand acronyms on first use if you are prone to typing the letters in the wrong order. Unless RLP is something else you meant to ask about.
MJR, mostly pedalling 3-speed roadsters. KL+West Norfolk BUG incl social easy rides http://www.klwnbug.co.uk
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Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
I had something of the sort back when I was a Cycling Scotland "Cycle Trainer Plus", which meant I could train Bikeability Scotland Cycle Training Assistants to teach up to Bikeability Scotland Level 2 as well as train folk to ride bikes.
At one point CS expanded the CTA course quite a bit and existing CT+ were offered an "upgrade" course rather than go through the full New! Improved! CT+ qualification.
We've also had CPD courses reflecting the changes to the NSCT and the teaching to support them: when I first qualified as a Cycle Trainer 20 years ago most teaching was in the form of rote drills, and that's now changed considerably to something where riders make decisions rather than follow by-the-numbers routines, so my CPD means I'm still a viable Cycle Trainer rather than an out of touch one that doesn't understand the newer approach.
That means it's changed how I train people considerably. Bikeability Scotland in 2025 has come quite a long way from Scottish Cycle Training Scheme in 2004.
Pete.
At one point CS expanded the CTA course quite a bit and existing CT+ were offered an "upgrade" course rather than go through the full New! Improved! CT+ qualification.
We've also had CPD courses reflecting the changes to the NSCT and the teaching to support them: when I first qualified as a Cycle Trainer 20 years ago most teaching was in the form of rote drills, and that's now changed considerably to something where riders make decisions rather than follow by-the-numbers routines, so my CPD means I'm still a viable Cycle Trainer rather than an out of touch one that doesn't understand the newer approach.
That means it's changed how I train people considerably. Bikeability Scotland in 2025 has come quite a long way from Scottish Cycle Training Scheme in 2004.
Pete.
Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...
- Philip Benstead
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Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
Thank you for this, If could give some details on where riders make decisions rather than follow by-the-numbers routines.pjclinch wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 8:09am I had something of the sort back when I was a Cycling Scotland "Cycle Trainer Plus", which meant I could train Bikeability Scotland Cycle Training Assistants to teach up to Bikeability Scotland Level 2 as well as train folk to ride bikes.
At one point CS expanded the CTA course quite a bit and existing CT+ were offered an "upgrade" course rather than go through the full New! Improved! CT+ qualification.
We've also had CPD courses reflecting the changes to the NSCT and the teaching to support them: when I first qualified as a Cycle Trainer 20 years ago most teaching was in the form of rote drills, and that's now changed considerably to something where riders make decisions rather than follow by-the-numbers routines, so my CPD means I'm still a viable Cycle Trainer rather than an out of touch one that doesn't understand the newer approach.
That means it's changed how I train people considerably. Bikeability Scotland in 2025 has come quite a long way from Scottish Cycle Training Scheme in 2004.
Pete.
Any chance that I could see the paperwork you use to run a course?
Philip Benstead | Life Member Former CTC Councillor/Trustee
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Organizing events and representing cyclists' in southeast since 1988
Bikeability Instructor/Mechanic
Re: RPL How did it change how you train?
I've not done any training since the pandemic, been too busy at my day job, but I have kept up with (and contributed to) current practice. However, that means I've no current paperwork to share and it would depend on who's hiring me (it would typically be a Local Authority or local cycling organisation) and what they want/expect.Philip Benstead wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 10:56am Thank you for this, If could give some details on where riders make decisions rather than follow by-the-numbers routines.
Any chance that I could see the paperwork you use to run a course?
As for the decision making, you still have some drilled-into-you things like always do a Final Check over the relevant shoulder before moving sideways but otherwise rather than a selection of drills (for a right turn do this, then this, then this, then this) it's more a case of seeing everything through the lens of the core principles of Control, Observation, Position, Priorities and Communication, as these can (and should) be applied to any road situation.
By emphasising things that way around a rider can deal with unfamiliar situations rather than thinking "oh, my training didn't cover that, what now?".
A lesson covering, say, a right turn will still cover the same things as a rote lesson but it will cover why we do things. So rather than the old "now move into primary" one thinks about what position is best for the situation and why. Rather than "signal here" we might think there's nobody to communicate to and by not signalling I'll be in better control, and so on.
The old Bikeability Scotland Riders' Guides had sets of drills in for e.g. left turns minor to major, right turns minor to major, setting off etc., the current ones simply discusses the core functions and everything runs from there.
Pete.
Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...