Public asked to name next Archbishop of Canterbury

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Tangled Metal wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 11:19pm
pete75 wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 12:57pm The last one was chosen by David Cameron, an old Etonian, who not suprisingly chose Justin Welby, another old Etonian. It's the way those public school types operate. Turned out very well didn't it.
Actually there's a church body called the church nominations commission iirc that selects the candidate through 2/3rds vote for someone. This then goes to the King for approval and he has the ultimate decision. The PM is represented in the CNC by the PMs appointments secretary but he or she has a non voting role.

Just thought I'd let you know the correct procedure. It is explained better on some .gov website and other websites too if you're actually interested in finding this out for yourself.
Well, if you are going to be pedantic it what was a humorous thread, then at least get it right. The CNCs choice doesn't go to the King for approval, it goes to the Crown, who is in this case the Prime Minister, who can say no. So yes, Kier could theoretically say 'go back and find a candidate who is a bit more Reigate Grammar School'.
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sizbut wrote: 8 Feb 2025, 5:12pm
Tangled Metal wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 11:19pm
pete75 wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 12:57pm The last one was chosen by David Cameron, an old Etonian, who not suprisingly chose Justin Welby, another old Etonian. It's the way those public school types operate. Turned out very well didn't it.
Actually there's a church body called the church nominations commission iirc that selects the candidate through 2/3rds vote for someone. This then goes to the King for approval and he has the ultimate decision. The PM is represented in the CNC by the PMs appointments secretary but he or she has a non voting role.

Just thought I'd let you know the correct procedure. It is explained better on some .gov website and other websites too if you're actually interested in finding this out for yourself.
Well, if you are going to be pedantic it what was a humorous thread, then at least get it right. The CNCs choice doesn't go to the King for approval, it goes to the Crown, who is in this case the Prime Minister, who can say no. So yes, Kier could theoretically say 'go back and find a candidate who is a bit more Reigate Grammar School'.
Hypothetically the PM could ask the CNC for a second choice but in reality it has only been their role to submit the nominee's name to the King who is the person to decides on whether the nominee gets the role. Technically Cameron did not decide on Welby as per the comment. CNC decided on Welby with Cameron not opposing and the King appointing him. So at which point was Welby chosen by Cameron when at most he could only have opposed the nominee chosen by the CNC??
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Topic title makes it look like he's just been born. :P

OK I'll throw in my suggestion... Balthazar.
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Can I suggest his name should be "Archbishop of Canterbury"? That is his title so that should be his name too.

PS I said his deliberately since the CofE will not be topped out by the king then a female archbishop. Not this time at least.
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I vote for a free vote on candidates - might throw up someone interesting!
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VinceLedge wrote: 9 Feb 2025, 3:20am I vote for a free vote on candidates - might throw up someone interesting!
Do they want "interesting"? I suspect not. Male, so as not to upset the more conservative side of the Church. Cautious and safe. In short, someone to continue to manage the decline in a quiet way.
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ncutler wrote: 8 Feb 2025, 9:33am God, obviously ...............
Which one?
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Boris Johnson might look good in a frock plus he has the right credentials from his previous job :roll:
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reohn2 wrote: 9 Feb 2025, 8:44am
ncutler wrote: 8 Feb 2025, 9:33am God, obviously ...............
Which one?
I might suggest the Greek goddess of togetherness and social cohesion: Araldite* or her Roman counterpart Bosticus

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Maybe revive earlier names, and add II, III, etc, starting with the more difficult to pronounce Saxon ones.
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Tangled Metal wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 11:19pm
pete75 wrote: 7 Feb 2025, 12:57pm The last one was chosen by David Cameron, an old Etonian, who not suprisingly chose Justin Welby, another old Etonian. It's the way those public school types operate. Turned out very well didn't it.
Actually there's a church body called the church nominations commission iirc that selects the candidate through 2/3rds vote for someone. This then goes to the King for approval and he has the ultimate decision. The PM is represented in the CNC by the PMs appointments secretary but he or she has a non voting role.

Just thought I'd let you know the correct procedure. It is explained better on some .gov website and other websites too if you're actually interested in finding this out for yourself.
That's certainly not how the last Archbishop was chosen.
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ncutler wrote: 9 Feb 2025, 1:40pm
reohn2 wrote: 9 Feb 2025, 8:44am
ncutler wrote: 8 Feb 2025, 9:33am God, obviously ...............
Which one?
I might suggest the Greek goddess of togetherness and social cohesion: Araldite* or her Roman counterpart Bosticus

* pronounced greek fashion: long 'i' and 'e'
whatever strums yer strings,it's a sticky wicket :D
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Archie of cant?
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
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Perhaps one might have some sympathy for whoever is bish-in-chief as he/she struggles with hugely complicated issues that threaten all of humanity, possibly the very existence of the Universe.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -communion
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ncutler wrote: 9 Feb 2025, 10:05pm Perhaps one might have some sympathy for whoever is bish-in-chief as he/she struggles with hugely complicated issues that threaten all of humanity, possibly the very existence of the Universe.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... -communion
A serious problem the incoming Archie will have to chew on and swallow,l hope its not to much what with sin the universe and everything........ ...........Boris would sort it all out I reckon,especially the wine problem.
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