Do we really understand what’s happening to the cycle trade?

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Bmblbzzz
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Re: Do we really understand what’s happening to the cycle trade?

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djnotts wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 2:54pm I understand the ecomics of volume and the strength of Decathlon but FIVE grand off?:

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/mp/niner- ... f915d15961

Plenty of other e-mtbs with 1500-2000 quid reductions. Must be a loss even for the big D.
I don't think it's five grand off.
3.7k at Winstanleys https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/niner-wf ... ctric-bike
Reviewed at $6300 in the US https://www.mtbr.com/threads/first-look ... o.1173596/
No price then "broken link" at Niner's own site. https://www.ninerbikes.eu/pages/e9-series
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djnotts wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 2:54pm I understand the ecomics of volume and the strength of Decathlon but FIVE grand off?:
It isn't Decathlon selling it, for a while now Decathlon have offered their website as a marketplace for other sellers. it is one of those strange things happening in retail...
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https://road.cc/content/news/uk-cycle-s ... 024-313015

Industry struggles continuing. I've seen several times the phrase within the industry of "survive through '25", the implication being that everyone knows it'll be tough for a bit but could/should recover beyond that.
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There's an episode of Sliced Bread Dough coming up on BBC R4 at lunchtime today. It's available on BBC sounds now.
Topic is the Bicycle industry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0028 ... are-mobile
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After 28 pages, I thought we'd covered everything about what happened to the bike industry... however this article picked up on the things I'd missed...
https://theradavist.com/the-bike-industry-is-broken/ it talks about the influx of venture capitalists into the bike industry and what they did to it to satisfy their own board of directors. In short the bike industry was effectively given a one night stand by outside investors looking to make a quick buck.. and the bike industry was seriously harmed as a result..
Dedicated to anyone who has reached that stage https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqbk9cDX0l0 (please note may include humorous swearing)
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PH wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 5:10pm
djnotts wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 2:54pm I understand the ecomics of volume and the strength of Decathlon but FIVE grand off?:
It isn't Decathlon selling it, for a while now Decathlon have offered their website as a marketplace for other sellers. it is one of those strange things happening in retail...
Is that the same thing that's happening to Sportsdirect ?

I've just bought another 2 pairs of raceface pedals ( marked up at £39 a pair ) for £14 a pair so less than half price!
Last month I bought another 2 sets of Lifeline mudguards for about £15 a set !

Both items were from different sources when previously bought. ie raceface was from raceface eBay and lifeline were from wiggle.
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cycle tramp wrote: 16 Mar 2025, 8:39am https://theradavist.com/the-bike-industry-is-broken/ it talks about the influx of venture capitalists into the bike industry and what they did to it to satisfy their own board of directors.
The same thing happened in the dotcom bubble, early to mid 2000's.
About that time there was a massive influx of cash to websites because everyone knew that published, printed mags were going to be a thing of the past, websites were the future etc.

One of them was the "madfor..." brand which launched madformountainbiking, madforskiiing, madfor any-other-sport-you-can-think-of, the other was magicalia which included bikemagic (but there was also golfmagic, fishingmagic etc). All of it was private-equity owned corporations - often parent companies of other private-equity firms which in turn owned a start-up private-equity which was advised by a consultancy... It was all very much a circle of money, all of it aggressively getting at the e-commerce and e-publication market.

Naturally, most went under; the madfor brand died off completely, of magicalia I think the only remnant is bikemagic (no idea who owns it now). And actually what has happened (very slowly) is a resurgence of smaller, independent publications and websites because, as that radavist article mentions, you actually have to love what you're writing about to make it work; you can't test, review, write about and photograph bikes (and riders, races, events) and you can't understand the community that builds around these kind of things unless you are actually part of it.
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Nearholmer wrote: 7 Mar 2025, 11:14am Less mischievously, this is helpful, extracted from this, which IMO we all ought to get through the letter box annually: https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/brief ... -finances/


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